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April 26, 2005                         Issue #1961
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Problems with Web Design ==--

                ~ Dirk Johnson
"...most business owners have misconcpetions
about the what, why, and how of a website."

                ~ Ronni Rhodes
"I wish all of us 'good luck' as we try to change
the small business mindset!"

                ~ David Yancey
"...the challenge is to learn how can your
services be 'packaged..."

        --== Beware of Internet-centricity ==--

                ~ Martha Retallick
"[Word of mouth is] pretty low-tech. But it still works."


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== Google vs Froogle ==--
                ~ James Haley


===== CONTINUING =================================

From: Dirk Johnson
Subject: When Biz Owners Go Stupid

> I have pretty well given up on the
> small business market.
        - Martha Retallick, LED 1960

I suspect that most good webmasters, (and especially, the
developers) come to this same conclusion, unless they find a way to
get someone else to feed new prospective clients / domains to them.

My own transformation came when I did the math. If your average job
for a "complete" website (whatever that is!) is US$2000 (and that
number is on the high end of the pain threshold for a small
business, most want a website for less), then you'd need to do 36 of
them a year to make $72,000, which these days represents a modest
professional-level, self-employed salary in most metro areas.

That's 3 new clients a month, which includes time for quoting,
planning, hand-holding, pulling-teeth for the content, the initial
template design, the inevitable re-design, and content integration.
Maintaining that pace would be daunting, especially when many of the
clients become "problematic". Trying to "educate" them is usually
fruitless and causes conflict. You have to face the fact that most
business owners have horrible misconcpetions about the what, why,
and how of a website.

Most self-employed web designers who are starting out with no
lifeline to an existing contract usually cut their teeth on pro-bono
or charitable work in order to build a portfolio, then they do the
small business work, and then they find something more stable and
consistent that evolves from that. Like sub-contracting to a larger
outfit that has big contracts, or clinging to the clients who need
ongoing service, etc. Then they start turning down or padding their
quotes on the nickle-dime work, unless they are specifically
structured to deal with it efficiently and they have found a way to
generate highly-qualified leads effortlessly.

That is just the nature of the business.  You have to pay your dues,
but not forever. :)

Best regards,

Dirk Johnson

Read "The Benefits of Reciprocal Linking - A Baker's Dozen Points to Ponder"
http://www.linkstrategy.com


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From: Ronni Rhodes
Subject: Web design - and other Services!

Kathryn Martyn wrote:

> I spent years learning what I know and tens of thousands
> of dollars buying software like Dreamweaver and Photoshop,
> digital cameras, computer equipment, etc. Why would I
> undervalue myself?

and

> Why business owners suddenly go stupid when it comes
> to the cost of a quality web site is beyond me. They see
> those idiotic ads for $5 webhosting and think, "Wow, it's
> so cheap."

These statements really hit home!

The "small business" segment has been inundated with so much DIY
software that these folks have come to honestly believe they CAN
produce a professional site with all the bells and whistles.  Why
should someone pay me to produce a professional looking video when
it's so "easy" to make it themselves?

Like Martha Retallick, we're attempting to attract those clients who
understand the complexity of what we do, the benefits of hiring
professionals to do the job, and the desire to have the project done
in an efficient and timely manner.

I wish all of us "good luck" as we try to change the small business
mindset!

Best regards,

Ronni Rhodes

Ignite Your Site with Sound and Motion!
http://www.wbcimaging.com


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From: David Yancey
Subject: Web design

The problem of how to get compensated fairly for bringing a smaller
business online is the major obstacle faced by thousands of local
web consultants. I empathize with my friend Kathryn Martyn when she
describes in LED # 1960 how:

> I've quoted my reasonable rate to build sites and have
> seen the faces fall when they hear $2000 or more. They
> were expecting what? $200?

Indeed, it is tempting to take the course favored now by Martha
Retallick:

> Instead of going after business in the "low profit, high amount
> of handholding required" small business arena, I'm focusing
> my efforts on the institutional and corporate markets. In other
> words, clients with budgets.

I've spent decades selling to the larger players, and agree with
Martha as far as she goes. But let me add that those with budgets
and a professional approach to dealing with professionals typically
have *much* tougher measures and standards for contractor
performance.

In the medium to large web services marketplace, a web design or
SEO/M consultant will be competing with established, experienced
professionals, most of whom can draw on the resources of a polished
team. The well-funded clients look for teams with as much *business*
experience as technical smarts. So, while a proven pro like Martha
can thrive in this part of the market, the great majority of newer
or less experienced web consultants will not.

It may sound harsh, but in my view most web consultants will
therefore either learn how to make it with smaller accounts, or find
another line of work.

Further, as Martha and Kathryn and others have said, the level of
realism among these small clients is so low, and the expectations so
unrealistically high, that making a profit serving them is nearly
impossible.

Most locally-oriented, one- or two-person web consultancies,
regardless of their specialty, and *irrespective of their
demonstrable expertise* are going to face a very long haul before
reaching a profitable level of account revenue that can be sustained
year in and year out.

It's a tough row to hoe, but not entirely hopeless. One key to
ultimate success is to define the account relationship as an ongoing
one. How is it that the Yellow Pages companies can make money
dealing with small accounts? They define their service as a
never-ending one. They treat the account as a long-term investment
proposition, not as a one-off job or contract. This lets them put
some extra expense into up-front sales and assistance with ad copy,
knowing that, on average, they will get that money back many times
over the account's life cycle.

In other words, the challenge is to learn how can your services be
"packaged" as a lifetime proposition. How can you become as much a
fixture of the account's operations as its outside accountant is?

It won't be easy to do this for most consultants, and even then, we
all face years of educating the smaller and local businesses as to
the value we add to their bottom line.

But the rewards of doing this successfully will be considerable.
According to the latest Yahoo! Small Business survey conducted by
Harris Interactive and released last week, 72% of adult Americans
are thinking about starting a new business. Those who figure out how
to make a reasonable profit while helping them will be the real
winners.

David Yancey
http://www.vivante.com


------- new post - new topic --------

From: Martha Retallick
Subject: Internet-centricity

In response to my recent post about the potential dangers of
Internet-centricity, Mekhong Kurt asked:

---------------------------
"What, however, of businesses with broader horizons than a single
neighborhood, Martha?  Can any business with a customer base beyond
a single immediate neighborhood dare not to have an Internet
presence? For that matter, were your yard man wish to expand his
business throughout an entire city or area, could he walk the
streets, pen and paper in hand -- only?  I would guess not."
---------------------------

To which I respond:

Turns out that Greg the Neighborhood Yard Guy does have a client
base beyond this area. Last week, when he was finishing some work
for me, he said that he had to go out to a property about 10 miles
away from here. Apparently, the good word about Greg has spread
beyond our neighborhood.

And just how would it do that? By word of mouth referrals.

That's another marketing method that is not dependent on the
Internet. All it needs is two people talking to each other.

Pretty low-tech. But it still works.

Martha Retallick

"The Passionate Postcarder"
http://www.postcardmarketingsecrets.com


==== BILLBOARD ===================================

From: James Haley
Subject: Google vs Froogle

I was wondering if any of the LED list participants have any
comments on the law suite being brought against Froogle by Google.
Is this a greed concept where Google has shown that that old quote
holds true. "Power corrupts and absolute Power corrupts absoloutely"

Google didn't invent the name google so why would they own rights to
simular sounding names. Its the old Microsoft technique of squashing
the compitition any way possible and that is bad for business on all
accounts.

Just wanted to see what other LED'ers had to say.

James Haley


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