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June 8, 2005                           Issue #1979
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


======= NEW =====================

        --== Credit Card Processing ==--
                ~ Richard Takaba


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Cancelled Orders ==--
                ~ Steven Rothberg
                ~ Tom Aman
                ~ Tom Anson
                ~ Reg Charie


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== Dropped off Google ==--
                ~ Thomas Yoon
                ~ Howard Brereton


======== NEW ====================================

From: Rich Takaba
Subject: Question on Credit Card Processing

Hello all,

I've been selling online for 8 years and currently accept credit
cards with Nova processing from Costco's Executive membership.
They're charging me 2.02% + .27 cents per transaction, but I have to
process myself with their Windows-based program. Thankfully, there's
no monthly statement fee or other charges like CardService
International who I used for the first 4 years.  Rrrr

I've looked at Yahoo small business package, and they seem to be
even better considering they can also do hosting and shopping cart.
 I'm currently spending $34 /month for hosting and secure shopping
cart.

Do any LEDrs know of better online processing rates, even real-time,
or who use Yahoo's small business?  Any help appreciated.  thanks

Richard Takaba
http://mrbigxl.com


===== CONTINUING =================================

From: Steven Rothberg
Subject: Cancelled orders

Martha Retallick proposed the ebook sellers begin to use
software-like license agreements that would require readers to
either agree or disagree with the terms of the license before
reading the book. While that may reduce the number of charge-backs,
it will likely reduce to an even greater extent the number of sales.

CollegeRecruiter.com is a career site used by college students and
recent graduates to find jobs. While the majority of our revenues
are generated from the sale of job postings, resume searching, and
other such services to employers, we do also generate revenues from
selling ebooks and other such items to the job seekers.

When we first started selling ebooks, we offered to guarantee and no
refunds for dissatisfied readers. Sales were lackluster. We then
went to a no questions asked refund policy for 90 days. Sales
skyrocketed.

Did we have refund requests? Sure, and we refunded every penny
quickly and without hassle. But the bottom line, as they say, is the
bottom line. Our increased revenues far exceeded our increase in
refunds and insignificant increased expenses related to delivering
the ebooks.

Like most commercial sites, we're in business to earn a profit. I
look upon allowing readers to request refunds for ebooks much like I
look upon the corner cheese shop offering free samples. We and they
know that a certain number of takers will enjoy the product and will
have no intention of ever becoming a paid customer, but enough who
sample will be convinced to buy that giving away a bit of the
product will end up being a wise investment.

Steven Rothberg
http://www.collegerecruiter.com


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From: Tom Aman
Subject: Cancelled orders

> Simple works well and has a more personal feel...
> Almost everyone that visits my site already knows
> what they are looking for and why they are there.
        - David Spahr, LED 1977

Nice to see someone who believes in the KISS principle.  It has been
a real education to watch my wife struggle with navigating some
sites when she uses the Internet as she is essentially a newbie.
Aside from checking out some of the news and entertainment sites,
she only uses the Internet for her home business - email and to
check out and order her beading supplies.

Her biggests complaints are sites for beading supplies, a lot of
which are run by individuals, that have a lot of bells and whistles
and/or are difficult to navigate and/or fail to make information on
the product and about shipping methods and costs clearly and easily
available.

Except in the rare case where a particular item is only available
from one sites, she tries to avoid going back to them.

She falls into the class of customer that knows what she is looking
for, wants to be able to get to it quickly and easily, wants really
clear pictures of the product, wants to easily find other sections
of the site and, in the end, wants ordering to be a really simple
process.  If any of this gets difficult or complicated, she just
leaves and shops elsewhere.

Tom Aman

Aman Software
http://www.cyberspyder.com


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From: Tom Anson
Subject: Cancelled orders

Hi all you LED-ers.  I'm probably the last person who should be
offering advice for anyone, but George Oliver's problem with people
who order his CDs by mistake (LED Digest 1974) should have a
solution.

It seems to me that listing terms of sale and refund policy on the
site would go a long way toward solving this problem.  Simply state
that opened CD packaging cannot be returned.  (You should know that
you ordered it by mistake before you break the seal.)  Another
possibility (maybe) would be to set up a confirmation e-mail on an
autoresponder.

Explain the reason for doing this, the terms of the sale, and have a
link to a page or something to confirm the sale.  After this, no
returns would be accepted.  Credit card transactions could then be
processed in a batch of confirmed orders.

I don't know if this would be realistic or not.  I think this could
be an interesting topic of debate, so let it fly.

Tom Anson

Anson Digital Concerns
http://www.ansondigitalconcerns.com/


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From: Reg Charie
Subject: Cancelled orders

We must be the exception to the rule then.

In 4 years of online sales of our $40 digital product we have had
only one chargeback, other than refunds for double purchases.

We offer a crippled demo with no time limit and as Thomas Yoon said,
Once they are sure that the hidden information is worth getting,
they will pay willingly and they will not claim a chargeback.

Thank You,

Reg Charie
www.fantasticmachines.com


==== BILLBOARD ===================================

From: Thomas Yoon
Subject: Google Dropped

I have seen the experience of being dropped from google by having
too many mirror webpages. My question is when will it be considered
a mirror page?

Let's say I am trying to increase the number of pages in my website,
so I decide to use the articles that I can obtain from some articles
directory. I may have many other websites that I want to use the
same articles. Sometimes for ease of setting up the webpages, I will
use the same template for pages of different websites that belong to
me.

Will that be considered a mirror page? Naturally the colour, or
images in those websites will not be the same, but the articles will
be the same.

Best Wishes

Thomas Yoon
http://www.free-marine.com


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From: Howard Brereton
Subject: Google dropped

Following on Jonathan's comments about being dropped in Google -
it's a major problem - hundreds of sites have been affected some of
them, like by own on the net for years.  My site has been hit hard
and only kept good SERPS for a few keywords.  It's amazing that one
change in single website can result in a 80% fall in traffic.

Don't ever think it won't ever happen to you - my advice is check
your listings in all the main search engines - not just Google.  If
the quality of their results starts to suffer as they index more
pages, as appears to have happened this time round, then the public
will soon start searching elsewhere.  I was such a Google fan, but
not any more.

kind regards to all in the same sandbox

howard brereton
www.typicallyspanish.com


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