| LED Digest 1985: Does Doing it Yourself Pay? |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest post, led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com .............................................. June 22, 2005 Issue #1985 .............................................. .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ==== CONTINUING ================= --== The False Economy of DIY ==-- ~ R. Neilson "...many small business don't always have the $1000 to pay the web designer..." --== Site Design Theft ==-- ~ Phil Chave "A Google image search is also useful." ~ Marsha Kopan "...you should carefully document everything..." ~ Andy Kale "Thanks again to the LED subscribers - this is truly a great community!" ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Frontpage Links ==-- ~ Andy Fuhr ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: R. Neilson Subject: False economy > So who cares if it costs $1,000 if it makes $5,000. As long > as we're wise about it, investing in our companies will be > worth it. "Do it yourself" can sometimes be the worst kind > of false economy. - Michael Linehan, LED 1984 The "Do it yourself" may sometimes seem like the worst kind of false economy, but for some small business this is all they can afford when first starting. The hope of making $5000 off of $1000 may be great but depending on the product may not happen as fast as your one client realized. When I put up my first website my brother did it for free. I gradually worked up to an online catalog and then an online shopping cart. Do I still need to do more work, Yes. But I also have a limited budget. You have to realize that many small business don't always have the $1000 to pay the web designer and are only trying to be honest and not stiff you on a bill they can't pay. R. Neilson H. L. Supply www.hansons.net -------- new post - new topic ------- From: Phil Chave Subject: Design theft > ... I have an interesting case of a site I have designed > being completely ripped off. This new site - xtremeteengp.com > looks eerily similar to the Red Square Lounge site that I designed > (redsquarelounge.ca). - Andy Kale, LED 1982 Hi All, I've found the easiest way to look for design theft is just to select a short sentence on your own site, maybe one that's difficult to reword and keep the same emphasis, then put it into a google search in quotation marks. Any site with the exact sentence will come back. I learned this trick, because I write articles on my own antiques site, which are free to reproduce, provided the credits and a link are provided. Most comply correctly, but some prefer to pretend it's their own work and remove the credits. Of course, using this technique, it's a piece of cake tracking them down. A Google image search is also useful. For example, if you have an image called teddybear.jpg, just search for that. If the person who you're chasing is too lazy to create their own material, you'll also find that for the most part, they won't even change the names of the images. I just can't believe the gall of these people. I've even had city councils in the UK, who either outsource their sitework or have incredibly lazy staff, nick complete pages of mine, and have the audacity to put their own copyright notice on it. God, you want to give 'em such a slapping! The plagiarism search sites quoted in some earlier postings are also extremely useful, this is just a DIY version. Regards Phil Chave www.distanthealer.co.uk -------- new post - same topic ------- From: Marsha Kopan Subject: Design theft Andy I have had similar situations. I use a site called www.copyscape.com to check on copyright infringement of my website. You can do it for free or sign up for their service which is fairly reasonable. Their site is very helpful. In the last instance of a thief of my content I had to jump through some hoops with her ISP to get the site removed because the site administrator in Whois was bogus. It took me 8 weeks to get rid of these perps. Since I'm a paralegal I can not give legal advice but I can tell you that you should carefully document everything including taking screen shots of their work and yours as well as the copied work that you find in copyscape. You can also prove your work from your copyright and the use of www.archive.org (That site can be pretty scarey...LOL. It will show you your site's design history. I cringe when I see my first designs. But then again we all have to start somewhere.) If you have to go as far as contacting the offender's hosting service or ISP you will need your documentation to jump through their legal hoops. I would start by using the offending site's contact information from their website and give them a specific date to remove your content. If they haven't acted, send another message on the target date that you will take other action if it isn't removed in 24 hours. Be firm! Sometimes you will get a rude response. I had someone tell me to "f" off which goes to show the professionalism of people that steal other's work. But, most of the time the content will be removed without a hassle. Be sure to do a good CYA and make copies of everything. I wouldn't let anyone get away with it. Persistance pays. Regards, Marsha Kopan, IVAA CVA, CRESS, PL Executive Secretarial Services www.execsecsrv.com Delegate, don't stagnate. -------- new post - same topic ------- From: Andy Kale Subject: Design theft Hello All, Thanks so much for the many suggestions, shared stories, and even a few actions of contacting the offending site directly on my behalf! I have a happy - so far - update for you. As of yesterday, the copycat site has been removed and replaced with a "coming soon" message. I'll have to keep watching to make sure that it doesn't re-surface at another host, but for now, the issue has been resolved. Thanks again to the LED subscribers - this is truly a great community! Andy Kale www.buzzmedia.ca ==== BILLBOARD =================================== From: Andy Fuhr Subject: Frontpage hyperlinks I recently revamped my website. I used Frontpage to do this and used their themes functionality to be consistent. It appears based on my web stats that the googlebot visited my site. I did a search in google for my main keywords and the date appearing is consistent with my web stats. However, it seems that the googlebot only seemed to capture my main page and not spider through my site. Does using the Frontpage themes, which creates the hyperlinks, result in hyperlinks that search engines can't spider or can't see? My site is www.shellonsanibel.com. 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