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LED Digest 2247: Getting Traffic Print E-mail
Gregory Marquess: During the month Google AdWords was turned off
sales decreased by less than 2%. Ditching Google six months ago has
had literally no impact on my sales. About 25% (max) of the money I
paid to Google was because of click fraud.

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September 15, 2006                  Issue no. 2247
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Dropping PPC ==--

                ~ Gregory Marquess
"During the month Google was turned off sales
decreased by less than 2%..."

        --== Taguchi Multivariate Testing ==--

                ~ Valerie Walk
"...is there any difference between 'Taguchi testing'
and 'multivariate testing'?"

        --== AdSense Infractions & Search Penalties? ==--

                ~ Mo Douglas
"I did take your advice to heart and have
rewritten the intro..."

        --== Getting Traffic ==--

                ~ Donald Nelson
"This technique is known as article marketing..."

                ~ Kym McLaughlin
"...the highest ROII is organic search engine listings."

                ~ Michael Linehan
"Figure out the plan to build the business you want."

        --== The Evolution of Email ==--

                ~ Tom Aman
"It appears that RSS is not yet making much
headway with the average surfer."


======== CONTINUING ===============================

From: Gregory Marquess
Subject: Goodbye Google

> Finally about two months ago I decided to wing it... drop
> the PPC advertising altogether. And you know what? Nothing
> terrible happened... In fact I think my activity has improved
> somewhat, my sales are up and my orders average bigger
> than they did when I paid for it.
        - Robert Bass, LED 2246

For the past several years I have seen my advertising skyrocket
mostly because of increased PPC, and competitior ads on Google.  I
mainly adverised (past tense) on Google and Overture.  For a month,
I dropped all advertising on Google (which I had capped at $500.00
per day).  The following month I turned off Overture which I have
always placed myself in the top 3 and allowed uninterrupted clicks
which averages about $190.00 per day.  My average CPC on Google was
$4.12 per click, it was less than half on Overture.

The result?  I saw a 32% decline in sales when I had Overture
completely turned off.  During the month Google was turned off sales
decreased by less than 2%, yes that was under 2%.  I do think that
about 25% (max) of the money I paid to Google was because of click
fraud.  Still, ditching Google six months ago has had literally no
impact on my sales.  This test was 6-7 months ago. I have abandoned
Google and have not looked back.  My biggest mistake was not doing
it long before.

I am no cheerleader for Overture, I am only informing anyone who
reads this of the simple fact of what my advertising did with both
Google and Overture, and without either one for a period of a month.
 Google may very well work much better for you.  The best thing
Google ever did for me is help me realize very few of my customers
were looking to Google to buy my products.  Fortunately, I have a
huge repeat customer base and am happy with Overture.  Google may
actually be a very good outlet for some business models.  I however
can and will live without them.  Saving a massive amount of ad money
doesn't hurt either.

Gregory Marquess
www.skintrigue.com


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From: Valerie Walk
Subject: Improving Conversion Rates w/ Taguchi

In response to Nick Usborne and Sumantra Roy, issue 2245 -

Thanks for your replies - they were very helpful.

I am slightly confused about 1 point - is there any difference
between "Taguchi testing" and "multivariate testing"? Or, do they
refer to the same thing?

Valerie Walk


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From: Mo Mo Douglas
Subject: AdSense penalty

> ... I would use "Thailand Stories" in a descriptive phrase beside
> your logo, remove the AdSense under the Introduction...
        - Reg Charie, LED 2244

Thanks for your comments, Reg.

While I agree that the words 'Thailand' and 'stories' appear a lot
of times on the page, it will be difficult to reduce this much as,
well, our site contains loads of 'stories' about or centered around
'Thailand'. Most of the references to 'Thailand' are from the
summaries of the stories, and in many of the cases I think they are
relevant and cannot just be removed.

I did take your advice to heart though and have rewritten the intro
slightly, removing some of the Thailand references. I've also
reduced the number of stories displayed on the front page from 12 to
10.

Not sure what to do about the adblock though, as it seems to work
fairly well there. Suggestions?

AdSense, yes, we are in compliance now, but weren't for a while as
we had their ads on pages which Google considered 'inappropriate'.

Mo Douglas
www.thailandstories.com


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From: Donald Nelson
Subject: Getting traffic

Dear All,

R. Deisler wrote in LED 2246 on the perennial question of getting
traffic.

One thing I noticed from the email is that he / she has the knack of
writing content. If this is the case, then this same writing skill
can be used to write articles that could be published on other
sites, blogs and in other ezines with a link back to his / her site.
This technique is known as article marketing, and for some websites
it works wonders.

And speaking of a link back to the site in question: she / he could
have put a link in the original LED post or in any other forum post.
Every bit of traffic helps.

Sincerely,

Donald Nelson
www.a1-optimization.com


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From: Kym McLaughlin
Subject: Getting traffic

Have you optimized the content of your site to correlate with your
targeted keywords? Also, have you implemented metatags on your site
and manually submitted your site to the major search engines?

I have been in the "SEO Biz" for about 10 years and found that the
highest ROII is organic search engine listings. If you are a "do it"
yourself type of person there is a ton information out there. You
can email me and I will send several links to get you started.  By
now I am sure you are swamped with offers to take on this project
for you. Be very careful if you choose to hire a SEO firm. Check
references, check references and then check references.

Good luck to you.

Kindest regards,

Kym McLaughlin, Search Engine Optimization Specialist

Advanced Internet Marketing
www.top20promote.com


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From: Michael Linehan
Subject: Getting traffic

> This is going to sound pretty amateurish, I'm
> sure, but how do I start getting traffic?!
        - R. Deisler, LED 2246

Hello R,

Your situation is similar to many people I encounter, some of whom
have had websites for years!  Over and over, I meet people at
business events and I hear, "Oh, you're in web marketing; can I ask
you a question?" And the two questions are ALWAYS, "I don't get many
visitors: do you have any idea why?" and "How can I make more sales?"

The reason for the inadequate return on investment is usually an
almost complete focus on designing and building the site. Little
time or money is given to an enormously important component -
planning.

An enormous increase in effectiveness can be had, by most business
owners, by taking a step back and starting with a plan. Where are
you going and why?  Who are you talking to? What do they want? How
can you reach them?  What's the best route to get to your goal?
What is the best "vehicle" (i.e. business) to deliver what you want?
 In other words, I'm talking about laying out a thorough and truly
strategic marketing program.  One caveat: strategy is an often
misused word. Frequently, it is used to mean a "really big" tactic,
or the "latest, sexy" tactic, or just a large collection of tactics.
But strategy is something else.

It's kind of strange, because in most fields of human endeavor, most
people would not dream of starting without a long-range, detailed,
carefully considered plan.  Think of climbing Everest. Lack of a
thorough plan will get you to an early burial. Or consider becoming
a surgeon, architect, ballet dancer, national-level athlete, or
concert violinist. But the business world is bizarrely different.
The majority of most companies' marketing is tactical and
opportunistic. Each marketing tactic is essentially separate, each
week's marketing not particularly connected to the last or the next.
This is how about 99% of companies market (April 2003 study of over
3,000 companies of income from $0 to $600,000,000 / annum). I have
done the tactical in my own business, and I've done the strategic. I
can personally attest to the difference. I also make my living every
day rescuing people from under-performing websites --- and the core
of the solution is almost always the shift to a strategic foundation.

So rather than thinking about adding or prioritizing tactics in your
already excellent list, I'd take that step back. Figure out the plan
to build the business you want. That plan will contain tactics, but
in a coherent, sequentially implemented scheme where each will build
on the last. It's like the difference between a bunch of flashlights
and a laser.  The laser may not have any more watts, but its power
is ENORMOUSLY increased because the light is coherent, i.e all
acting together. This is what a strategic plan can do for you --
produce such an increase in power and focus that your marketing
results will undergo a leap in effectiveness - give you a
laser-focussed business building force that will take you to another
level.

My hunch is that you'll get some good specific ideas from other
people.  My contribution will be to say that strategy is probably
the most overlooked factor in business success --- and that becoming
strategic is, therefore, the single biggest change you can make to
move towards your goals. That's the core that will make EVERYTHING
more powerful, including all those valid tactics you already listed.

Michael Linehan, Marketing Alchemy
www.marketing-alchemy.com


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From: Tom Aman
Subject: Email publishing

> There was talk of RSS replacing e-Mail. At the time
> I thought 'how silly' -- but I now have a Google home
> page that gives my RSS feeds from around the world.
        - John Smart, LED 2246

RSS may be "the best thing since sliced bread".  But then again,
maybe not (at least not yet)!   It appears that RSS is not yet
making much headway with the average surfer.  A quote from eMarketer:

"Research by Media Buyer Planner and Workplace Print Media shows
that merely 2% of US employees subscribe to RSS feeds, and only 9%
know what such feeds are."

The complete article can be read at
http://www.emarketer.com/Article.aspx?1004127

On the other hand, I got brave and decided to give the new IE a test
- that is Version 7.0, RC1.  I have had no problems with it so am
staying with it. In addition to giving tabbed browsing that so many
people like, it does include provision for RSS, including an icon
that changes color when a page includes an RSS feed, thereby making
subscribing to that feed as easy as clicking with a mouse and it
eliminates the need for a special RSS reader. Maybe, as use of this
browser becomes more common, RSS will become a significant mode of
communication, but that remains to be seen.

(For those who might be interested in the new IE, try
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx for info
on availability for your system in you choice of language.)

Tom Aman


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