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November 1, 2005                      Issue #2042
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


====== NEW ======================

        --== SEO for Beginners ==--

                ~ Peter D'Aprix
"You have many readers...who might like a
concise description of SEO."


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Site Search ==--

                ~ Steven Rothberg
"We use FreeFind..."

                ~ Steve Pronger
"...give FreeFind a try..."

        --== Anti-Marketing ==--

                ~ James Miller
"...the Million Dollar Page has generated a lot
of traffic and the search engines are responding."

                ~ Reg Charie
"...the content in the real jerk seems accurate."

        --== SEO is Dead ==--

                ~ Dave Roberts
"I'm glad to see that the era of "tricks" is ending."


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== The Google Sandbox ==--
                ~ Noah Masterson


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From: Peter D'Aprix
Subject: SEO for Begginers

Dear Adam

You have had a highly interesting battle of ideas going regarding
SEO. Very sophisticated and fascinating for those who have a pretty
good idea of what SEO is all about. But I also know that it took me
months of reading LED to figure out what the initials stood for,
then more to understand what they actually meant.

You have many readers new to your newsletter and/or the web who
might like a concise description of SEO. At
http://www.ipower.com/enewsletter/issue18_02.html a hosting company
has published a single page synopsis of SEO that is really well
worded for those just entering the fray if you want to publish the
link.

All my best (and I have nothing to do with the hosting company other
than to receive their newsletter).

Peter D'Aprix
http://peterdaprix.com

<Moderator Comment>

The link Peter gave is no longer pulling up the page. However,
Google's cache was helpful. Here's a rundown of at least part
of the page's description of SEO:

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"The most important reason to have your Web site is to effectively
provide the information you want to the visitors on your site.
However, maximizing your site to allow search engines to list it is
important, too. The way to do this is through search engine
optimization (SEO).

"Most people know that SEO is important to their Web site's success.
However, SEO can be pretty confusing, too. Not everyone is exactly
sure what SEO is or how SEO works.

"So, if you are confused by SEO, then read on. We will de-mystify it
for you with some basic information.

"Let's start with the definition of SEO: SEO is the art and science
of making your web pages attractive to search engines so that they
may pick up your site as a listing when people search for terms
related to your site.

"The best way to begin the search engine optimization process is to
get your Web site ready for optimization. Let's start with your
homepage. Look at it carefully and write down the words and phrases
that best define your site. Try to form two or three-word key
phrases, since it is easier to get higher placement in search
engines for phrases than single words.

"The next step is to incorporate some of your top keyphrases into
your home page. This is important because search engines scan the
text on your home page for these keyphrases. The title should come
first - then the name of your company. The title of your home page
must include your main keyphrases, because this is what search
engines display as text when your link is posted. Also, in the
description of your company, use at least one keyphrase and keep it
under 30 words. Be careful that you do not put too many keyphrases
on your homepage, however, because search engines may consider this
spamming. When it comes to homepage text, you should have a balance
between keywords and regular text.

"Also, some search engines use metatags to describe where they should
list web pages in their database. Metatags are non-displayed text
written in HTML intended to describe a Web page for the purpose of
allowing search engines to catalog the content of a Web page. In
order to optimize metatags, incorporate your kephrases into these
metatags and place them into the HTML on your web page [...]

"Also, make sure that your pages are under 50KB, have minimal HTML
coding and little or no Flash design, and that you have a site
map / index for your site. All of these things help the search engines
read your site.

"Most of the most modern search engines have scanners or "spiders"
that will go out and find the information on your site to index it
within search engine pages. However, we do recommend that you go to
the major search engine Web sites yourself and find out the best
ways you can submit your site directly to the search engines."

http://www.ipower.com
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Hope this helps,
Adam


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From: Steven Rothberg
Subject: Site search

> There are a number of "site search" products to choose from,
> and I'm not sure exactly how they all work. So I wonder if someone
> who has already gone this route might be able to comment on
> what they chose, and why...
        - Nancy Schettler, LED 2041

We use FreeFind http://www.freefind.com. There is a free version,
as the name implies, and a paid version. We started using the free
version until we were satisfied that it was returning the results
that we wanted and otherwise operated properly.

When you use the free version, text ads are inserted at the top of
your search results. If you're running Google AdSense or other such
program on your site, then the addition of those links likely won't
be troubling. We upgraded to the paid version in large part to
retain more control over the advertising that appears on our site.
While there were never any inappropriate ads on our site as a result
of using the free version, the addition of the text ads made the
search results page a little too ad heavy.

Customer service and support have been good. Their web site is easy
to use and fast. Updating your page is a snap. You just create a
template for your site on your computer, go to their site, select
the type of search results that you want to display, use their
"browse" feature to select the template file from your hard drive,
and then submit. They host your search results page so any changes
to their program are automatically reflected on your page. You don't
have to worry about downloading updates or otherwise maintaining or
enhancing the program.

Steven Rothberg

CollegeRecruiter.com job board
http://www.collegerecruiter.com


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From: Steve Pronger
Subject: Site search

Hi Nancy,

You might want to give FreeFind a try - http://www.freefind.com.
It's easily set up. You only have to paste a few lines of code to
your home page and the freefind spider does the rest. There is a
free version which includes advertiser links on the results page, or
the paid version removes the ads and you can add your logo.

There is a handy side benefit as well. You'll get links to every
page on your site that are keyword targeted (as long as you included
your keywords in your page titles) from a high PageRank page.

You can see it in action here: http://www.bestbusinessbuyes.com.au/.
Type something like "bakery' into the search box.

Cheers

Steve Pronger
http://www.stevepronger.com


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From: James Miller
Subject: Anti-marketing

A quick point on the Million Dollar Home Page.

The link I put there has got entwined round the search engines
already.  I deliberately linked to an orphan page and didn't post it
to the search engines, so it only has the like to MDHP.

Obviously, the MDHP has generated a lot of traffic and the search
engines are responding.

Perhaps it's a cheap way of getting listed?

James Miller

Daisy Analysis:
www.daisy.co.uk


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From: Reg Charie
Subject: Anti-marketing

> I don't think [The Rich Jerk] paid for the links on the "million
> dollar homepage", because those have an affiliate id at the end
        - Claudiu Spulber, LED 2041

Perhaps not, but I always make a number of "tracker affiliates" to
monitor referrals. It makes it easier to check incoming traffic for
specific links by looking in the affiliate admin than to search them
out in the regular logs. The affiliate admin shows me the totals for
such links at one glance.

> I admit too that his attempt is different than others I've seen,
> but (personal opinion) I don't think his ideas will bring you
> millions.

Millions? Perhaps, but associates of mine have made hundreds of
thousands using similar affiliate sales techniques.

While it is true that convincing other people that the ideas will
make them rich is the case in a lot of the get rich promotions, the
content in the real jerk seems accurate.

As with Willie Crawford, I have been in business online since 96 and
*most* everything the jerk says rings true.

I too have picked up a number of tips that I am putting into effect.

I like the jerk's negative marketing concept. If you can get
visitors interested immediately, you stand a better chance of making
a conversion.

Case in point: While looking for methods to develop our traffic,
(and sales), for our www.metacryl.com website we signed up for
10,000 visitors from a company that promised "targeted" visitors.
One sale will more than pay for the cost of the traffic. Closely
monitoring stats we saw that 100% of the visitors were showing as 0
seconds stay duration. In an effort to capture their attention,
(their system uses pop unders showing the designated page on our
site), we first set up a normal advertising headline in 2nd coming
font size that said "$1300 in free development tools." When it did
not have the desired effect, we changed to a negative advertising
headline saying: "ignore this and you lose $1300 in free development
tools." Since the addition of the headline 2% have stayed longer
than 0 seconds with a few coming back for another look.

It seems that negative advertising does work.

Thank You,

Reg Charie
www.metacryl.com


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From: Dave Roberts
Subject: Irresponsible SEO is dead

Clients who hire me sometimes think they are hiring someone to do
SEO. I tell them that I do Web marketing, and will help them with as
part of that effort.  I tell clients that I work two problems:
getting visitors to the site and turning those visitors into
customers.

Which means that I must deal with all parts of the problem -- search
engine position, yes, but for terms that my measurements show cause
visitors to spend a long time on the site.  Similarly for pay per
click, I carefully measure those results too, tracking them through
the site log, to be sure the money goes into terms that bring
customers, not just visitors.

I've seen competitors who promise to "drive traffic".  I don't
promise anything, other than to work diligently to improve the
business.  It's been my view that this is what responsible SEO has
been all along -- getting good positions on terms that are
important.  Which means you have to find out which terms are
important. Happily, the search engines are getting smarter, so a
good SEO job is becoming closer and closer to simply presenting a
well-organized site that presents its information in a concise,
easy-to-use fashion.  Which is exactly what an effective site should
be anyway.  I'm glad to see that the era of "tricks" (which I have
never used) is ending.

Dave Roberts
http://www.davedoesitall.com


==== BILLBOARD ===================================

From: Noah Masterson
Subject: Another Google Sandbox Question

Hi LED-ers,

My wife and I publish a website, DC Baby, offering daily information
for parents in the Washington, DC area. Soon, we will also be
selling a book via the website.

Currently, Google accounts for the majority of our search traffic.
However, paradoxically, it is actually difficult to find our website
in Google. A search for "DC baby" or "DC parenting guide" yields
nothing. (Meanwhile, Yahoo and MSN deliver decent results.)

We seem to only get listed on Google's results pages when the search
terms relate to specific content, such as "Jonah's Treehouse" (which
links to a post about an area provider of classes for kids).

We've only recently been removed from Google's sandbox, but since
you can't find us when searching by name, it seems like we may still
have one foot in the sand. Is this typical? Could it be we are being
penalized for having all caps in the title? (This was a stylistic
choice when we named the book.) Any thoughts?

Noah Masterson
www.dc-baby.com


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