| LED Digest 1739: Spamming with Sub-domains |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ................................................ February 2, 2004 Issue #1739 ................................................ .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Ad Blocking Software ==-- ~ Jim Winters "Perhaps I might make a few people angry with this post..." ~ Lee Roberts "JavaScript has no major relationship with Sun's Java." ~ Kurt T. Francis "I can see both sides of the argument..." --== Use of Sub-domains for Rankings ==-- ~ Michael Martinez "... I don't really expect Google to do anything about [spamming with sub-domains]..." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Viewing Source Code Disabled? ==-- ~ Chuck Hiatt ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Jim Winters Subject: Banners, Pop-ups and etc > ... don't tell me that you want to look at their content AND not > see their ads. It's not your content. It's theirs and they may > present it any way they wish. Your only choice should be > to either accept it or go elsewhere. - Steve Fleming, LED 1735 Perhaps I might make a few people angry with this post, but hey, it cannot be helped as I am a bit passionate about the subject of which I speak. IN a nut shell, I operate an ecommerce website catering to the consumer retail market. As has been said by untold hundreds or even thousands, it is imperative that you keep a prospective buyer on your website, right? Then why would anyone want pop-ups, banner ads and etc on their website which are essentially nothing more than an exit door away from your website? Could it be that the content of a website is not such that it can generate income on its own? Could it be that the website is marketing in a product or service and cannot be competitive, therefore the major source of income is affiliate commisions? Who knows! All I know is that the last thing on my mind when building websites, presenting products and editing webpages is to offer an exit from my website other than the add to cart and complete this order buttons! My 2 cents worth! Sincerely, Jim Winters, VP Sales and Marketing/Webmaster Quality Trading, Inc. - www.qualitytrading.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Lee Roberts Subject: Ad blockers > JavaScript can simply be turned off. Sun might get mad, > but we don't need Java with all the problems it creates > for the various browsers. - Lee Roberts, LED 1733 Let me clear up a misunderstanding. JavaScript has no major relationship with Sun's Java. JavaScript was created by Netscape Communications in 1994 as a means of adding interactivity to web pages. Many good functions are available such as form validation. My comment was paired together with flowing thoughts. JavaScript can be turned off. JavaScript is more often overused for "eye-candy" like mouseovers, image manipulation, and such. Graphic designers think it looks great to have images change appearance when the mouse is over the image. Why burden your visitors with stuff they don't need. They don't care about that stuff. They do care about how long it takes to download a page. They do care that fphover.class causes many browsers fail to operate correctly and crash. I use MS Enterprise Server for my desktop operating system because of the Shadow Copy feature. Plus, MS gave it to me. My comment of "Sun might get mad, but we don't need Java with all the problems it creates for the various browser" was simple. In order for Java to work, the visitor must support the version of Java used. If the visitor doesn't have the version required they must download the appropriate version. I use Netscape 7.1 and other Gecko-based browsers. Even with downloading the latest version of Java and installing it, many Java applets simply do not work on Netscape because of poor programming. So, Java can get mad, but we don't need it on the Internet. Others can simply disagree or rather agree to disagree with me. Sincerely, Lee Roberts Apple Pie Shopping Cart http://www.applepiecart.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: K Francis Subject: Ad blockers Hi, LED'ers -- Lots of great info in this thread. I can see both sides of the argument, so it's difficult for me to reach a conclusion on whether pop-ups should be allowed or not. The main reason I let Yahoo block all pop-ups is that so many of them have no way to close them short of hitting one's ALT-CNTL-DEL keys and killing them there. That is a major irritant to me, though on occasion -- not often, but once in awhile -- a pop-up is of interest to me. But abusive advertisers have led me to decide I'd rather miss those few interesting ads than to have to mess with manually closing (via the method above) numerous windows that I otherwise can't close. While I'm always wary of letting politicians handle this sort of stuff, I would like to see jurisdictions around the planet have a law requiring advertisers to have an easy-to-see button to close a pop-up window. Spam is of considerably more concern to me than are pop-ups -- today, out of 271 e-mails so far, only 21 have been legitimate. My ratio of wanted-to-spam typically runs around 1 to 8-10. But that's another beef. . . . Kurt T. Francis, Web Master Bangkok's Voice On The Web http://bangkokatoz.com ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Michael Martinez Subject: Sub-domain rankings > We have noticed an increasing use of subdomains > with the intent of dominating the search results, > especially on Google... The concern is obvious and > we are surprised that this issue hasn't received > more attention by Google... - Jim Berry, LED 1738 I have publicly and frequently complained about Google's allowing this practice for about four years. So, they have probably looked into it and have decided it's not (yet) worth the trouble to do something about it. And, who knows? Maybe every time I brought it up here and elsewhere, someone took a cue from me and decided to start doing it. Anyway, I don't really expect Google to do anything about it. Michael Martinez http://www.xenite.org/ ==== BILLBOARD ==================================== From: Chuck Hiatt Subject: Viewing Source Code For some reason I can no longer view HTML source code in either Outlook or Explorer. I right click on the page and select View Source and absolutely nothing happens. I haven't made any setting changes - it just started happening about 3 days ago and I can't figure out the problem. If anyone out there has a suggestion on how to fix this it would be greatly appreciated! Charles Hiatt www.promogear.com chuck [at] heartlandco [dot] com ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Forget regret, or life is yours to miss." - Jonathan Larson |
