| LED Digest 1748: Mozilla versus Internet Explorer |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ................................................ February 16, 2004 Issue #1748 ................................................ .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ======= NEW ===================== --== Mozilla vs Internet Explorer ==-- ~ Viggie Bala "I installed Mozilla for design testing...But within 2 weeks I made it the default browser." ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Keywords in Meta Tags ==-- ~ Mark Frank "There doesn't seem to be any absolute truth about keywords." ~ Rick Meigs "...keyword meta tags are not used by any of the major search engines." --== AOL Bouncing Email ==-- ~ Ian Dickson "...some people can actually set their systems to reject HTML mail outright." ~ TJ Sylvester "AOL will block SMTP attempts after so many." ~ Scott Marino "Visit the AOL postmaster site..." --== Spammer Using our Domain, Help! ==-- ~ Jack Yan "We find that SpamCop reports are reasonably successful." ~ Tom Aman "...take time to report the abuse - even if you only report on 2 or 3 a day." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== "Hacker Safe Certification"? ==-- ~ Scott Marino --== Bayesian & Other Filtering Solutions ==-- ~ Wanda Husick ~ Paul Harris ======= NEW ====================================== From: Viggie Bala Subject: IE vs Mozilla Three years back when Version 4x was the latest in Netscape, making the site design compatible to it was a headache. Internet Explorer seemed far better. Now it seems IE's turn. Mozilla (particularly 1.5) seems to be much faster, stable and honours CSS Level 2 much better. I've installed Mozilla for design testing purposes only. But within 2 weeks, I made it as the default browser. Can do tabbed browsing, block unsolicited popups. It does everything IE6 does and better. It also seems to have the best loved features of Opera7, without the quirks of it. Now I use IE only for testing and found that I have to add extra codes / hacks in CSS to make the design consistent in IE. Last month we had a thread on pop-ups and many suggested installing toolbars to block them. Wonder, nobody mentioned Mozilla (I was too busy at that time and catched up with past issues of LED only recently). One can block unsolicited popups and instruct it to allow all popups from specific sites (useful for banking and some mailboxes). Microsoft announced IE6 as the last stand-alone browser. So would like to know from fellow LEDers whether Mozilla may soon become the default browser of the web? IE6 is identified as "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;)" in server logs, so why not use Mozilla directly? Your experiences? Regards, Viggie Bala Helping websites to work http://www.viggie.com ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Mark Frank Subject: Keywords > So in 2004, what is the accepted wisdom > amongst LEDers with keywords? - Jack Yan, LED 1746 Jack, There doesn't seem to be any absolute truth about keywords. Some search engines seem to use them, others don't. Like you, I have come across sites that rank well for keywords that only appear in their meta tags. My recommendation? Put them in. They might help with some engines, and they never seem to hurt. Mark Frank, Author Start Your Own Home-Based Website Design Business http://www.websitedesignbiz.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Rick Meigs Subject: Keywords > These days, I notice that some of the top sites > do repeat keywords and have very few of them. - Jack Yan, LED 1746 My understanding of the current thinking is that keyword meta tags are not used by any of the major search engines. In fact, you don't even have to have a keyword mentioned in your content to get a good rank in Google because of "Latent Semantic Indexing." You can read more about this at the following link: http://javelina.cet.middlebury.edu/lsa/out/cover_page.htm . Rick Meigs, President 401khelpcenter.com, LLC ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Ian Dickson Subject: AOL bounces > On my last email blast 1600 AOL addresses bounced back... > this is an opt-in e-newsletter. [The provider] of the email service > said they were bouncing because the recipients couldn't read > an HTML email. - Verna Wiseman, LED 1747 A lot of people have HTML turned off re email. Possibly because they just don't like it. In some cases, on family machines, because of the content of some such mail. I for one have HTML off because I prefer text. (Turnpike displays text elements and links, and gives me the option to view in all glory. I rarely do. In fact if I do, it warns me that this could be dangerous, do I wish to continue?). I believe that some people can actually set their systems to reject HTML mail outright. IMO a simple text email is best. You can include the salient points, and links to expansions. OR You could set up a second list for all the bounces, starting with the message that:- "Printmasters here - we have sent you emails that have bounced because you are not accepting HTML mail. You have the following choices, and can control them via the form HERE. a) Stay on both lists - this will happen if you do nothing. b) Get text mail only - resign from the HTML list. c) Get HTML mail only - resign from this one, but please turn HTML mail on. If you continue to bounce mail, you'll be deleted." You might lose a lot of members, but they are probably the people who have a very low opinion of your mails (ie are not your customers or even serious prospects). Ian Dickson http://www.commkit.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: TJ Sylvester Subject: AOL bounces Having troubles with AOL in the past, I would say that the most obvious problem is that whatever software you are using to send the newsletter is sending the AOL emails one at a time, using multiple SMTP connections. AOL will block SMTP attempts after so many. The two options are to send to AOL using bulk SMTP using only one connection or spread out the delivery time of the AOL emails. TJ Sylvester ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Scott Marino Subject: AOL bounces Visit the AOL postmaster site at http://postmaster.info.aol.com/ There is contact information there and lots of other helpful information needed when sending e-mail to AOL's members. Regards, Scott Marino ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Jack Yan Subject: Spam spoofed In response to Brigitte Burchett in LED #1743, whose address has been spoofed by a spammer. Brigitte, this happens to us occasionally and we've found that they do go away after a while. We get the bounces from these unscrupulous characters' spamming for about a week. I know that's not much of an answer but we tend to wait it out. We file reports with SpamCop ( www.spamcop.net ) usually. I take the content from the returned message, as this will give SpamCop the spammers' correct IP address. We find that SpamCop reports are reasonably successful. The spammer's IP is blacklisted, which prevents his or her emails from getting to those employing the SpamCop blacklist. (Incidentally, SpamCop is seeking volunteers for its blacklist, preferring those outside the US.) I have no connection to SpamCop other than being a regular spam-reporter. One reason for your delay, however, may be the techs dealing with the recent virus problem. We are still getting around 80 a day of MyDoom, so it's apparent that some ISPs aren't keeping up with the problem. Back in August, with the last big outbreak, some American and Brazilian ISPs were taking 10 weeks before doing anything about infected accounts. If they are this busy, then regular spam may have taken a bit of a back seat. Regards, Jack Yan, CEO Jack Yan & Associates http://jya.net ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Tom Aman Subject: Fake email headers (Faking your email address as the "From") This is just a bit of eductional material regarding "faked" email headers for those who may not understand what actually happens. Don't believe everything you see in a spam email because all may not be as it seems!! The header lines below appeared in an email that I received (the email contained an attachment "doc.pif" that was actually infected with the W32/Mydoom.a@MM Virus - my virus scanner caught it as it was being received): Received: from worldonline.co.uk ([200.78.97.59]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with ESMTP id <3586588-29403>; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:03:30 -0500 From: This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it On the surface this appears to have been sent by This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it or possibly was generated by his computer as a result of being infected. But since we know about faked addresses, we know that this may not actually be the case. But it still looks like it originated from the worldonline.co.uk domain. But that is not true either!!. The one thing that cannot be faked is the originating IP address - a whois lookup (I use http://www.dnsstuff.com/ for this) of the IP address of 200.78.97.59 tells me that this actually originated from a UNINET.NET.MX system - Mexico, not the UK!! If I check the headers at spamcop.com, it tells me that I should report the abuse to: This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it , This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it , This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it , This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it , This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it , This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it , and This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it Note that worldonline.co.uk and davidbeck23 are not involved here in any way (except that davidbeck23 will get all of the bounces from this mess). With a bit of luck, if any action is taken by anyone to whom the abuse is reported, using the IP address and the time stamp (9 Feb 2004 22:03:30 -0500) the real perpetuator of this spam will be identified and stopped - an action that is more likely to occur if they get 1000s of complaints instead of 1 or 2. That is why the most important action you can take in dealing with real spam is to take time to report the abuse - even if you only report on 2 or 3 a day. Tom Aman Aman Software http://www.cyberspyder.com ==== BILLBOARD ==================================== From: Scott Marino Subject: Hacker Safe Certification Anybody have any feedback, positive or negative, on getting a site certified hacker safe? The company that does most of the certifications is http://www.scanalert.com Regards, Scott Marino www.webundies.com ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Wanda Husick Subject: Filtering solutions My web host recently migrated my email to a new mail server that had different filtering abilities than the old one I had been on (I guess they had not bothered to update anything on the old one because they were phasing it out). They said the new filters were just filtering Spamcop identified abusers, but my morning download has gone from about 400 emails to 35 (which is still more than the "real" email I receive). This is great (Super Great!), but I am a worrier. Do you think this method of using Spamcop could accidentally be filtering some of the email I want? Wanda Husick ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Paul Harris Subject: Filtering solutions I was using Mailwasher, it worked fine for a while then for some reason or other wouldnt accept emails from 1 account . I saw the LED digest and downloaded Spambeyes without any problem. I was expecting problems because it was a free download, and with 2 days Spambeyes can recognise 95% of my unwanted mail, and soon I'm confident it rate will increase. I'm surprised Spambeyes hasnt been commercialy marketed - Excellect - Thanks LED for your introduction Paul Harris Designaweb www.designaweb.biz ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "I have always said that Sweden is a strange country, and now I think it's even stranger than I thought." - Bjorn Wahlroos, "the Wonderboy", CEO of Sampo Bank, Finland [thanks to Heikki Nylund for the quote!] |
