| LED Digest 1752: IE Dominating, also Classifieds for Sites |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ................................................ February 20, 2004 Issue #1752 ................................................ .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ====== NEW ====================== --== Classified Ad Modules for Sites ==-- ~ Ron Guth "I'd like to include a classified advertising module on my website..." ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Mozilla vs Internet Explorer ==-- ~ Veronica Yuill "...the average inexperienced computer user doesn't know or care what browser they're using..." ~ Jerry Feth "For better or worse, IE has a safe place atop the browser pile..." ~ Kerry Branham "...my traffic logs showed that over 90% of my visitors used IE." --== AOL Bouncing Email ==-- ~ William Ernest Waites "We had a similar problem trying to send batch emails..." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Change in PayPal Policies ==-- ~ Simon McArdle ======= NEW ===================================== From: Ron Guth Subject: Classified advertising I'd like to include a classified advertising module on my website [URL below]. Can anyone suggest a good software supplier or program to meet this goal. I'd like something robust so that I don't have to baby-sit it all the time. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Best wishes, Ron Guth www.coinfacts.com ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Veronica Yuill Subject: Mozilla > The problem with people that use IE falls to the lack > of education. Initially it was because people didn't want > to go through seven hours of download to get Netscape. > Now, it's just a lack of education. - Lee Roberts, LED 1750 Lee's right -- the average inexperienced computer user doesn't know or care what browser they're using -- they just click the "Internet" icon to go onto the web. It works, so why would they go out looking for something else? Of course in many cases their computer fills up with unwanted spyware and popup blizzards, but they don't make any connection between that and the browser they're using -- they just ask a knowledgeable friend to clean it up for them. So it's at least partly up to tab junkies like me and Lee to spread the word about the better browsers that are out there -- whether Mozilla, Firebird (oops, Firefox), or Opera (inventor of the tabbed browser interface, and still my favourite, but only by a small margin over Firefox). Next time a friend or colleague asks you to help solve their surfing problems, just install Firefox, show them how to use it, and set it up as their default browser. With IE now stagnating, alternative browsers have a real chance to make inroads if we give them a helping hand. Regards Veronica Yuill, Moderator I-Design http://www.marketingwonk.com/lists/idesign/35363/ ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Jerry Feth Subject: Mozilla I can understand your affinity for tabbed browsing, I have played with the newer versions of Netscape myself and liked them, yet continue to use IE. Is it because I'm uninformed? Because AOL hasn't made me switch?? No, it's because every page I visit works in IE. Even if I absolutely preferred one of the other browser flavors, I would have to keep IE at the ready because invariably, I come to a page that doesn't load properly in a secondary browser flavor. I can already hear the roar of replies "those pages don't conform to the proper standards!", well, your correct, but so what? As long as everyone who "creates" web content of any kind, tests it against IE (often only IE) it will remain the standard. As for AOL changing, what's your point? How many of the people that read this newsletter do you think use AOL? How many web professionals? Designers? The days of AOL being able to lead a technology change on it's own have long been dead. For better or worse, IE has a safe place atop the browser pile, for now anyway. Jerry Feth Access Point, Inc. www.accesspointinc.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Kerry Branham Subject: Mozilla I have been reading the discussion about Mozilla vs IE with some interest. I understand that many of you may prefer not to use IE for more reasons than one. I, too, was a die-hard Netscape user until about version 4.7. When I got heavier into designing with style sheets, I was quite disturbed by the fact that Mozilla browsers would not display them properly. One site I use as a prime example is www.walnutcreekhardwood.com. It is supposed to display a background image via a style sheet command. It displays properly in IE, but not in Mozilla. I downloaded the latest version of the Firefox Mozilla browser, and it still does not display the graphic. I simply have not understood why the developers of browsers cannot at least conform to the W3C standards when it comes to interpreting and displaying coded pages. Another reason I switched over to IE was that my traffic logs showed that over 90% of my visitors used IE. I imagine that will change once AOL switches over to Netscape, but it is definitely something you have to consider when designing a website. On a different subject, has anyone else been having problems with the newest version of Norton Anti-virus? I find it locks up my computer often. I have not found any fixes or updates at Symantec either. Keep up the good discussions. Kerry Branham K-S Marketing kib [at] ksmnet [dot] com ------- new post - new topic ------- From: William Ernest Waites Subject: AOL bounces > On my last email blast 1600 AOL addresses > bounced back... this is an opt-in e-newsletter. - Verna Wiseman, LED 1747 > Are you by any chance sending the email > from a cable modem or other high speed > residential service? - Keith Daegele, LED 1750 We had a similar problem trying to send batch emails from a cable (Comcast) server. When we inquired of Comcast, they said they automatically bounce all email batches from residential accounts in excess of 100. The presumption is that they are spam. I solved the problem, laboriously, by dividing by my list into deciles and sending them 10 ten at a time. Time-consuming to be sure. But effective. William Ernest Waites Aboriginals: Art of the First Person http://www.zunilink.com ==== BILLBOARD ==================================== From: Simon McArdle Subject: PayPal > PayPal just launched some major new features last Friday > that may be of interest to LED'ers... feel free to drop us a note > with your feedback and suggestions! - Dave McClure, LED 1751 Hi Dave, It would be nice to know, seeing as you are talking globally about services, when you intend opening up PayPal shops again for non US businesses. Regards, Simon McArdle ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "I would like to be remembered as a man who had a wonderful time living life, a man who had good friends, fine family..." - Frank Sinatra |
