| LED Digest 1753: Classifieds for Sites, also IE Integration |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ................................................ February 23, 2004 Issue #1753 ................................................ .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Classified Ad Modules for Sites ==-- ~ Mark Roberts "Phpoutsourcing has a great classified ad system..." ~ Brad Waller "I'll try not to be too promotional in my reply, but this is what we do." --== Mozilla vs Internet Explorer ==-- ~ Marty R. Milette "IE is very much intertwined with the operating system..." --== AOL Bouncing Email ==-- ~ Martha Retallick "...look into the e-mail list-handling software sold by Willmaster.com." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Change in PayPal Policies ==-- ~ Carolien Ruiter ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Mark Roberts Subject: Classifieds > I'd like to include a classified advertising module on > my website. Can anyone suggest a good software > supplier or program to meet this goal. - Ron Guth, LED 1752 Phpoutsourcing has a great classified ad system written in PHP. You can see a demo that I have set up on my site at: http://robertscomputing.com/classdemo.shtml Or, go directly to their site at: http://classifieds.phpoutsourcing.com/ Mark Roberts Roberts Computing Systems http://www.robertscomputing.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Brad Waller Subject: Classifieds Ron Guth asked about getting classifieds for his site. I'll try not to be too promotional in my reply, but this is what we do. Our solutions are hosted on our server, where the classifieds are set up and maintained by us, so he will not need to baby-sit them, as he requested. EP.com has been offering affiliate classifieds sites since 1996, and anyone can set up classifieds through our free affiliate program. Sites are free to set up, you can choose from any of the EP.com categories, you can customize the colors and fonts, and you will earn 10%-20% of all local ad revenue and a share of all Network ad revenue based on your site's share of the pool. Those needing further control and customization such as custom categories or a look to match your own site, our spin off service at AdConnect.com is the solution. AdConnect has two service levels to chose from, depending on your needs. AdConnect allows you to set all local ad fees, while AdConnect operates the sites and collects the money. AdConnect takes a fee of 20% of the local fees plus $1 on each transaction, and you keep the rest of the local fee. Network ad fees are shared from the same pool that EP.com affiliates use. Option 1) $149 start up, $49 per year after that for a Premium site from AdConnect.com. This is a custom solution where the site owner chooses the categories (we have a few templates to choose from) for their classified or auction site, sets up the revenue model, and then turns it over to us to host. We can take the sites entire look/feel and integrate it into the classifieds (or auctions), but the domain for the site will not match the clients', as in this site: http://ep.com/js/csp/42480.html Option 2) $349 start up, $149 per year after that for a Premium Branded site from AdConnect.com. Take everything from the Premium site, and add in full branding with a custom domain (e.g. ads.yourdomain.com) and email (e.g. classifieds @yourdomain.com), and an affiliate program if they want. Check out http://classifieds.broncograveyard.com/ or http://classifieds.mycoupons.com for two examples of this type of site. As for others, you can check out some of the CGI based programs at http://snipurl.com/4oda [hotscripts.com] or http://snipurl.com/4odc [scriptsearch.com]. While you will have full control, you also will have full responsibility and all the headaches that go along with integration and maintenance. Brad Waller, VP Affiliate & Business Development www.ep.com ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Marty R. Milette Subject: Mozilla > The problem with people that use IE falls to the lack > of education. Initially it was because people didn't want > to go through seven hours of download to get Netscape. > Now, it's just a lack of education. - Lee Roberts, LED 1750 From a 'web applications' developer point of view, one should keep in mind that there is a very important and fundamental difference that IE offers, and that many other browsers do not -- and that is -- the ability to run ActiveX controls, ActiveX documents and VBScript out of the box. IE is very much intertwined with the operating system -- a complaint for some people -- but for others it is a blessing. This 'integration' allows IntRAnet developers to create extremely POWERFUL applications by hooking into the OS at a very low level. With IE, ActiveX and COM -- a developer can literally make the system sing and dance. (Virtually any low-level operating system function call can be invoked.) This allows developers who specifically TARGET Internet Explorer to create some incredibly cool applications that would be simply impossible (or a horrendous hack) to try and create with any other browser. I can create ActiveX controls in a few minutes that can do things you'd NEVER be able to do in plain HTML or with most other plug-in technologies. (Very powerful ActiveX controls are also easy to find and often free.) Another thing to consider is that many corporations have their 'standard IT platform' and take exception to any users who even install plug-ins or third-party components without the IT department's blessing. In many cases these plug-ins are physically prevented from even being installed. These restrictions may apply regardless of which browser or other technologies are deemed to be 'baseline'. It is a real big pain in the butt when I go to a client site, try to show them a web page and the first thing the site tries to do is install Flash, Shockwave or some other plug-in before the first page of the site can even be viewed. What's even more of a pain is to explain to the client that they can't view the site because their computer doesn't have the plug-in and its security configuration prevents them from even getting it. My rule of thumb is that if I'm coding for the Internet -- I try as much as possible to avoid ANY reliance on browsers or plug-ins. Even JavaScript is not always enabled -- so I only use even that absolutely when necessary. In contrast, if I'm developing applications for an Intranet -- the platform is generally known and I can go wild with whatever is supported. Oh yes, and another point -- traditional software developers building standalone or networked applications on a Windows platform will almost always use the built in IE COM component for browser-based windows. (This is why many software tools such as page rank checkers, keyword analyzers and the like show up in the logs as an IE client would.) There are probably other third-party browser components out there -- but why go out and buy what's already there for free. Marty R. Milette http://www.marty-milette.com marty [at] milette [dot] com ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Martha Retallick Subject: AOL bounces On the subject of AOL e-mail bounces, William Ernest Waite said: > [Comcast] said they automatically bounce all email > batches from residential accounts in excess of 100... > I solved the problem, laboriously, by dividing by my > list into deciles... To which Martha adds: Not just time-consuming, but time-wasting. When I send a mailing to my 3,000-plus e-zine subscribers, I get the job done in one click. Since I'm running more than one business (design and publishing), the ability to get things done quickly is of supreme importance. How do I do this "one click" thing? I have my e-mailing list hosted by an outside contractor. Name: Databack Systems in Oregon, and I highly recommend them. Yes, there is a cost involved, but my time also costs money, if it is not used in revenue-generating activities. Plan B: If you are able to run e-mailing software on your own server, look into the e-mail list-handling software sold by Willmaster.com. Go to: http://willmaster.com/master/mailingtools.shtml and http://willmaster.com/master/ezinetools.shtml Hope this helps! Martha Retallick "The Passionate Postcarder" http://www.postcardmarketingsecrets.com ==== BILLBOARD ==================================== From: Carolien Ruiter Subject: PayPal > It would be nice to know, seeing as you are talking globally > about services, when you intend opening up PayPal shops > again for non US businesses. - Simon McArdle, LED 1752 Hi Simon I think they already accept foreign shops, I just found a Dutch site (although in English) via the Paypal shops section. Carolien Ruiter Imp. Exp. Delta S.A.C. Peru www.deltarts.com ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- |
