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March 15, 2004                         Issue #1765
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           .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


======= NEW =====================

        --== Keywords & Description 'Not Recognized'? ==--

                ~ George Oliver Jr.
"I have a conundrum for you. I've run my site
through some optimizing software..."

        --== All About DMOZ ==--

                ~ Joanne Cannell
"I'm wondering if anyone can help me with
a strange problem."


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Fraud ==--

                ~ Gary Greene
"Be careful out there!!"


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== Attraction Pages? ==--
                ~ Tom Ulbrich

        --== Non-Deliverable Emails ==--
                ~ Kathryn Martyn
                ~ Greg Robbins


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From: George Oliver Jr.
Subject: Keywords / Description Not Recognized

Hello Everyone,

I have a conundrum for you. I've run my site (naturelibrary.com)
through some optimizing software I've found on the web and I've
noticed for some odd reason that my keywords and my description meta
tags do not get recognized.

They are clearly intact and there for the whole world to see (just
check the source code), but are not recognized which is evidenced in
the errors I have been receiving while optimizing.

Has anyone else ever run into this problem at all? If this is in
fact somehow broken in my code, then I fear the search engines don't
see these keywords and descriptions either which is ultimately
hurting my rankings.

Might I throw a request to all the whiz-bang hotshot coders out
there to see if they can help me figure out what is happening. I'm
at my wits end as to why these keyword tags and description tags are
not recognized, so I figured I'd try the LED list as it's always
been a fantastic resource and full of insightful info.

Other comments on this topic are welcomed as well.

Cheers,

George Oliver Jr.
http://www.naturelibrary.com


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From: Joanne Cannell
Subject: DMOZ

I'm wondering if anyone can help me with a strange problem.

I had my website redesigned a few months ago, and the designer
changed my web address from www.kitchendesignbyjoanne.com to
http://kitchendesignbyjoanne.com.

I had been listed with DMOZ (the Open Directory Project) & after
launching the new site, I submitted it to DMOZ.  Once the directory
was updated, my ranking with Google improved dramatically.

But recently I noticed that my site wasn't coming up on searches
anymore, & that my old site was reappearing in some searches.  I
went to the DMOZ website & found that if you do a search for my name
at the top level, it brings up my old listing, not my new one, in
the two categories I am listed in...

It seems that the top index reverted to an earlier version, because
when I go to the listing in one of the categories, it is correct.

I submitted a correction for the other listing that was pointed to
my old website (but there currently isn't an editor for that
category, so who knows when or if it will be fixed), & I also
submitted general feedback to the DMOZ site, &  to the highest
ranking editor I could find, but so far have not received a reply.

Has anyone else experienced a problem with the top search index on
DMOZ?  And is there a way to get it fixed?  I also submitted a
request to be an editor, but haven't heard back on that either.

Joanne Cannell


===== CONTINUING =================================

From: Gary Greene
Subject: Fraud

> The automated systems are the easiest to beat. I have
> had credit cards faxed to me when I've asked for identity
> verification. They were perfect... A month later they were
> fraudulent.
        - Charles Bennett, LED 1761

I have had a similar experience where they actually sent me a
cashier's check for several thousand dollars over what the items
cost. They gave me some crazy story which I immediately related to
the issuing bank (Wilson State Bank).

The bank informed me of a huge counterfeiting ring with their checks
and I am now awaiting a call from the Secret Service to gather my
documents...

Be careful out there!!

Gary Greene
www.simply-shopping.com


==== BILLBOARD ====================================

From: Tom Ulbrich
Subject: "Attraction Pages"

I'm new to this forum and hope this is an appropriate spot to ask
this question.

I was recently approached by a company that guaranteed us top 10
ranking on multiple search engines.  I was suspicious and asked a
lot of questions.  They talked about creating "attraction pages".
They claimed it was perfectly legitimate.

I was under the impression that this can potentially get your site
black listed.  Our business relies heavily on the web orders and we
cannot take any chances on having our site black listed.   We
currently rely heavily on pay per click advertising with very good
results but are not listed well in search engine data bases.

Any comments will be very much appreciated.  Thanks!

Tom Ulbrich
"live life with intention"


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From: Kathryn Martyn
Subject: Non-deliverable

> In recent weeks I have been notified by automated systems
> that some of my emails have not been delivered. In each case,
> the message is only one or two words, (usually "hello")...
        - Robert Ellis, LED 1763

Hi Robert,

No, it's not just you. It's everyone. There have been numerous
clever e-mail spams and viruses circulating lately. I get upwards of
1000 e-mails every single day. It's annoying because about 97% are
spam, and 1% are viruses, but it's not going away.

Here's what I do:

1. I have Outlook filter the majority of spam-like mail for me. Then
I scan that folder, first looking at the subject, and secondly the
sender. If the subject is obviously spam, I don't have to give it
more than the slightest glance, if there is no subject, I will
glance at the sender. The sender's address gives clues, big clues.
If the address is obviously not one a person would use, then it's
spam.

2. If the e-mail purports to have been sent by you, and you know you
didn't send it, delete it, it's spam or a virus or both.

3. If you receive e-mail that looks like it's coming from some ISP
indicating you sent something that couldn't be delivered, check to
see whether there is an address, and if so update your database. If
not, it's junk. Delete it.

4. Spam bounce notices - you didn't send them, just ignore it.
Delete key, please. This includes those messages telling you your
message couldn't be delivered because the "filter Gods" decided it
was spam. Delete those too, you can't make those filters happy. (I
have other ways of getting around that but not appropriate for this
message).

All of these warnings and messages are spam and/or viruses
themselves. When it doubt, toss it out. Friends don't send friends
attachments - unless they relate to work that is ;-)

My delete key has been used so much the text has worn off. Don't
waste time trying to figure these things out - almost always, just
delete in the best course of action.

In the case of e-mail virus, if you repeat, in other words, if you
reply, or send the message to someone else or do anything at all you
are playing into the hands of those who sent the crap in the first
place. Remember: "Don't repeat, just delete" or "If it doubt, toss
it out."

Kathryn Martyn, M.NLP
http://www.onemorebite.com


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From: Greg Robbins
Subject: Non-deliverable

In answer to Robert's post, if the virus mentioned is W32/Netsky-D
virus or similar, then all you are seeing is a variation on the
worms which randomly sent out e-mails to everyone in your address
book.

The variation is that they forge the "from" data field, randomly
inserting someone else from the address book. In a small community
you could possibly work out whose address book is being used, but
otherwise you need to look deeper to see who it's from.

For me, life's too short at the moment and you might take
consolation in it being someone else's problem. On the other hand,
you could get riled at someone wasting all our time - depends on
your priority this week.

Hope that's reassuring.

Greg Robbins
www.greentrad.org.uk


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