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April 30, 2004                         Issue #1794
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           .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


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        --== The Demise of Email? ==--

                ~ Dave Ushkow
"Traffic is immaterial if you can't communicate
with your customers."

        --== Anti-Virus Servers Creating Spam ==--

                ~ Eddie Teo
"Will the anti-virus software companies wise up...?"


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== SEO - What to Pay? ==--

                ~ Richard Stubbings
"A point to consider is your target market."

        --== Reciprocal Linking: Dead or Alive? ==--

                ~ Rick Gortatowsky
"What webmasters need is a reciprocal linkage
engine where webmasters can 'team up'..."


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== Coding Stymie ==--
                ~ Helen Estlin

        --== Site Stats for Non-techies? ==--
                ~ Lanell Grant
                ~ Joanne Cannell

        --== Emails in Flash Files ==--
                ~ Mekhong Kurt


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From: Dave Ushkow
Subject: The Sudden and Rapid Demise of E-mail

Hello all,

I've been a long time subscriber, and had Web presence for 8 years.
As a dealer of very high end investment quality products, which I
market to a High Net Worth clientele, I am greatly troubled by the
turn our infrastructure has taken.

Over the last 7 years, I have found direct (requested) e-mail
marketing to be extremely effective. The last year, I have become
increasingly aware of my customer base avoiding, if not running from
e-mail.

This seems to be a disturbing trend amongst busy professionals and
entrepreneurs.  Obviously this is due to the unbelievable amount of
spam out there.  I would hate to resort to direct mail, as it is
costly and time consuming.

Does anyone see a solution to this insanity?  Traffic is immaterial
if you can't communicate with your customers.

Regards,

Dave Ushkow
www.pen-site.com


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From: Eddie Teo
Subject: Spam vs Anti-Virus Servers - Which is Worse?

On our servers, there have been a huge jump recently in spam mails,
and correspondingly, there is an even bigger jump in anti-virus
servers returning mails telling us our domains have been sending
them virus-infected emails.

The trouble is, those mails did not originate from us!  Most of them
originated from virus-infected machines, which the virus in
concerned uses just about anyone's email address to send out those
infected mails.

When this "feature" started a few years ago, I thought "Hey, that's
pretty cool, now I know if my machines are sending out
virus-infected emails".  But recently, it has grown to take at least
one or two hours of my time daily just to clear these notices.

This is on top of clearing spam / junk mails, which are bad enough
by itself.

Will the anti-virus software companies wise up and take this into
account?  If you are administering the servers, will you turn off
this "notice emails" feature?

Anyone else out there facing the same issues?  What did you do about
it?  Any innovative suggestions?

eddie teo
www.online.com.sg


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From: Richard Stubbings
Subject: Paying for SEO

> What I'm after is some guidelines as to what I can expect
> to pay for this kind of [SEO/SEM] service and maybe some
> chest puffing from those of you who really know this business.
        - Gomez, LED 1791

There is no easy answer regarding what you can expect to pay for
SEO. Over the years I have had various quotes ranging from a few
hundred pounds to many thousands. All to do the 'same' work.

I would like to be able to say it depends upon what you are
promoting;  how many key words you should be targeting;  the level
of competition for your key words;  and the content and design of
your current site. I would like to say that, but it does not seem to
work that way.

I would suggest you avoid any automated service. Avoid any service
that implies or says that they can guarantee positions as if they
have an inside deal. I would avoid people who say that they can get
you on thousands of search engines. The best thing to do is to get a
short list by asking people here who they would recommend and ask
the short list for prices.

A point to consider is your target market. If for instance you are a
UK company and most of your business is UK then get a SEO who
understands the UK market and any relevant specialist UK search
engines.

Richard Stubbings

Kulture Shock
http://www.kultureshock.co.uk


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From: Rick Gortatowsky
Subject: Reciprocal linking

> ... link farms in the guise of directories are the
> most prominently featured sites for many commercial
> search queries at Google.
        - Jill Whalen, LED 1785

Dear Jill,

I reviewed your site and read some content and am most impressed.
The issues presented in LED #1785 are right on the money.

The problem with developing qualified traffic to a web venue these
days stem nearly completely from what I cant say amount to abuses,
since there is not Court Of The Web (lol) but really webmasters
trying to "get all they can get".

As I noted in a prior LED a short time back I know many a webmaster
who obtains significant hits and they use this as a gauge of site
success. When I ask them however if they are actually getting goals
fulfilled its almost always "Well not yet but I have alot of traffic
so its just a matter of time". No it is not. If a site has 200,000
hits a day and is selling custom pens, yet sells 10 pens in a day
I'd much rather be the site that sells 500 pens a dat and gets 1000
hits. Hits are a statistic and dont buy a cup of coffee.

Abuse for lack of a better word is what is consistently sending
qualified traffic off into completely irrelevent content often to
the point of frustration.

We must all remember the Internet is still a young technology and
its been slated (at least in the USA) to grow up. While for a time
the web was an economic boom and day trading and such the word of
the days now many a decent economist considers it more boon than
blessing.

I think we will see regulation occur and it will begin via flat rate
sales tax and in years to follow more restriction as globally
nations realize that freedom of communication can be as bad as it
can be good.

Reciprocal linkage when context of sites are like is in fact the
best mechinism to develop new qualified traffic. Affiliate programs
w/ Amazon and others prove that people will click through on context
sensitive linkages. After all, thats what an SE is supposed to do as
well!

What webmasters need is a reciprocal linkage engine where webmasters
can "team up" and move traffic to and fro from sites that can
benefit from other sites with like forms of content. Perhaps I
should write it up in more specific detail and submit it into MSN or
Google. This form of RLE engine could readily give any SE an INSTANT
step up on competitors and put alot more power in webmasters control
to the benefit of other webmasters and especially the surfer and RLE
service.

Rick Gortatowsky, President
The Software Society


==== BILLBOARD ====================================

From: Helen Estlin
Subject: Coding Problems

I am stymied by the fact that the top of page arrow will not work on
this website... the site is not finished and can only be found if
you have the URL which is below

http://www.cardblanks.com/new_cardblanks/cardmaking.php

if anyone would like to take a look at it and see if you can tell
what I have done wrong I would really appreciate it.

Helen Estlin

Yellow Web Design
www.yellowdawg.com


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From: Lanell Grant
Subject: Website Stats

> ... I am ready to purchase a service or a program that
> will allow me to gather and view each of my site stats
> in a separate, neat, graphical format. The major programs
> or services available are too sophisticated and/or too expensive.
        - Terry Riley, LED 1791

Terry,

In early 1999 I set up my first web site with V----, who included
several stats packages. Over time I began to appreciate the
differences in stats software.

As my understanding of what was being reported increased I started
to realize that unless the AOL "jumping IPs" problem, among others,
was handled the data I was viewing was in significant error. Look at
your logs...

Space does not permit discussion of stats errors, but suffice to say
that no matter how handsome the graphic or tabular output, if the
basics are not correctly resolved, the results which flow from that
are highly inaccurate.

When session tracking with a cookie coupled to a stats software
package became available the first really accurate statistical data
about our web site visitors became available. The information which
that produced is truly remarkable, and accurate for the most part.

As I first learned of this approach to statistics I discovered that
this capability was strictly for the big boys that had budgets to
match. I could not afford the thousands of dollars per year this
capability first cost. At some later point in time to increase
sales, software like this was made available to hosting companies to
offer to their customers. This was and is, in my opinion, a major
breakthrough for the little guy !

Today on several web sites, at a cost of US$1.95 per month each, I
have Urchin 5 with tracking operating successfully. The information
available to me has caused a number of positive revisions and
cleared the cobwebs away from what is really happening on a web site.

I don't wish to shill for one set of software or the other. I have
no personal interest. I do believe most site operators do not
realize what is available out there and settle for significantly
inferior feedback about their visitors.

It was not easy for me to locate both a suitable hosting company and
at the same time one which offered what I have described. It took me
about a year using typical searching techniques. In process I
learned that hosting companies do not generally offer this because,
" ... the web masters never even ask about what we do include, let
alone request sophisticated stats...". This response to my
questioning was almost universal !

I close with the thought that this is a little understood topic.
Perhaps it is worthwhile to consider that this is a primary
yardstick with which we can measure the results of our efforts. I
believe you will benefit greatly from a look into what is outlined
here. And, it is affordable!

Lanell Grant
www.rv-realestate.com


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From: Joanne Cannell
Subject: Website Statistics

My hosting company (Vianetworks) provided me with a freeware program
for statistics called Webalizer that I don't find very helpful.  It
doesn't seem to give me the keywords used, search engines or
browser.

Another program was recommended to me called Power Phlogger by CIIC,
Inc., which I think costs US$5.00 a month.

I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with Webalizer & can tell me if
I just have it configured wrong. Or if there is a better  option
than Power Phlogger?

Thanks,

Joanne Cannell CKD, CBD
http://kitchendesignbyjoanne.com


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From: Mekhong Kurt
Subject: Flash email

> Awhile back I picked up the great tip, from the LED,
> of putting my email addresses in a Flash file...
> but unlike a picture it's actually clickable.
        - Richard Graham, LED 1792

I'm curious, as I have been making graphics active links for years,
either to go to a web destination, or as a "mail to" link.

Both are simple to do, and neither require Flash to achieve.  I'm
far from being a technically oriented person, but that's one thing I
do know.

Hope that saves you a bit of time, trouble, and unneeded Flash.

Mekhong Kurt, Web Master

Bangkok's Voice On The Web
http://bangkokatoz.com


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