| LED Digest 1800: Froogle Feeds, Gmail and more |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ................................................ May 11, 2004 Issue #1800 ................................................ .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ====== NEW ====================== <Moderator Comment> ~ Google's Gmail, In-Flight Wireless --== Froogle Feeds ==-- ~ Tom Anson "...I'm trying to get my feed in to Froogle." ==== CONTINUING ================= --== The Demise of Email? ==-- ~ Tom Aman "...it is usually simple to find the company that is using the affiliate..." ~ Richard Graham "Over here in Japan mobile phones use normal email..." ~ Frank Zipperer "...view the source URL and look for an affiliate ID..." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== SEO / SEM Companies ==-- ~ Aaron Wall ~ Lee Roberts ======== NEW ===================================== <Moderator Comment> Just a couple of things that caught my eye today: - Google's Gmail Reviewed: http://snipurl.com/6akw [extremetech.com]. Although it's still in Beta, this looks interesting. Plenty of screen grabs and a pretty good look at what's coming from the Big G. - In-Flight Wireless: http://snipurl.com/6aky [dailywireless.com]. Lufthansa will be the first airline to offer wi-fi connections to its passengers when the service kicks off May 17. Make it a great week! -adam --------------------------- From: Tom Anson Subject: Question about Froogle Hi fellow LED-ers, After putting it off for w-a-a-a-ay too long, I'm trying to get my feed in to Froogle. Before I do that, however, I need to get a couple (a one compound?) question(s) answered. I've contacted Froogle support, but they have such a load right now, it's been two weeks, and I still haven't heard from them. Maybe one of you can help. Most of my products are listed on cgi-bin pages (e.g.: therapeutic-grade.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?2X367200). Can these pages be "fed" to Froogle? And if so, can I feed to a specific spot on one of those pages (e.g.: therapeutic-grade.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?2X367200#35 48)? Now, if the cgi-bin pages don't work, I could convert them into HTML without too much trouble. Then the question of whether I could link to a specific spot on the page still stands. Or, another way: Does each product need its own page? Thanks for the help. Tom Anson Anson Aromatic Essentials http://www.therapeutic-grade.com ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Tom Aman Subject: Email demise > Seems to me that the vast majority of spam that I receive is from > people who are affiliates of one company or another. Perhaps > someone can find a way to make the companies that have > affiliate programs accountable... - Jim Winters, LED1799 When spam comes from an affiliate, it is usually simple to find the company that is using the affiliate (just click the appropriate link in the email to get to the site). Once you know the domain name for the company site, you can use a site such as www.DNSstuff.com to find out who actually owns the domain. This will usually give you some key email addresses, such as administrative contact and sometimes an email address for reporting abuse. Emailing these will sometimes get results (especially an abuse contact). Also, if you do email, watch that the email is not returned with an invalid address - sometimes the contact info is fake (like it used a Yahoo or Hotmail address). In such cases, it is worth emailing the registrar for the domain (info usually part of the registration record) since having valid contact info is one of the requirements for a registration. In such cases the site will often be shut down. One other thing I discovered was that, if the site is a ".us" domain, the holder must reside in the United States. I hit one (spam site) where the holder had a Mexican address, reported it to the registrar, and the site was shut down within 24 hours. Note that "shut down" here means that the domain is removed from the DNS servers so becomes inaccessable by name. Tom Aman Aman Software http://www.cyberspyder.com amant, cyberspyder.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Richard Graham Subject: Email demise Over here in Japan mobile phones use normal email instead of SMS. Some carriers, such as the famous Do-ko-mo charge people to receive emails. Hence with all the spam around at the moment lots of people are simply choosing to not use the mail function. Maybe something to come for the desktop market? Be genki, Richard Graham http://www.genkijapan.net ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Frank Zipperer Subject: Email demise I agree with Jim about affiliates who use email to spam the companies they are associated with. I happen to have affiliations with a lot of companies that have direct value to the people who visit my site. I only put the affiliate links on my website pages and they are clearly identified as such. I also do not affiliate with companies that use exit popups. I haven't seen a legitimate affiliate program that does not strictly forbid the use of emails for advertising except for people who have opted-in by subscribing to a members list. If you receive a spam from any affiliates, view the source URL and look for an affiliate ID somewhere in the link and report the offender to the company who has the program. Most all companies of any size have affiliate programs and they don't want their programs misused. Frank Zipperer www.fzippererphoto.com ==== BILLBOARD ==================================== From: Aaron Wall Subject: SEO companies > I approached an SEO company [who suggested] they > would create a highly focused page that would have to > be hosted by them for the time we would contract for... - Lyn Jolley, LED 1799 Highly focused and hosted by them = crap. If you do not know what they are doing and they are not working to improve your site then you would just be better off hiring someone specifically for lead generation or using pay per click advertising. Aaron Wall http://www.seobook.com ------- new post - same topic -------- From: Lee Roberts Subject: SEO companies My cousin signed a contract like that prior to talking to me. The SEO company (and I use the term loosely) built a page they hosted on their servers with a domain name they purchased and charged him US$3,000. After the contract ended and he didn't renew, they had rights to find someone else in his industry and sell them the page they developed for him. Never use a service like that. If they can't put the work on your server where you can see exactly what's going on you need to go elsewhere. The reasons they want to hold the pages on their server is because they do a lot of unethical things to achieve placements. If they were ethical they'd have no problems doing the work on your hosting account. Sincerely, Lee Roberts, President/CEO Rose Rock Design, Inc. http://www.roserockdesign.com ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. 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