| LED Digest 1826: Aloha I-Sales... |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ................................................ June 23, 2004 Issue #1826 ................................................ .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Text Link Vendors? ==-- ~ Aaron Wall "There are many fake link broker who are nothing more than resellers..." ~ Craig Benson "Marketbanker has worked fairly well for me even though the advertising tends to be general." --== The End of I-Sales ==-- ~ John Smart "Even though something is being given away, it still needs to be pushed." ~ Ken Evoy "There's content...and then there's the voice that delivers the content." ~ Richard Takaba "[Making] every email trackable and their senders accountable is a huge step in the right direction..." ~ Thom Reece "Aloha John... wherever you are." --== Image Search ==-- ~ Tom Anson "...how does one get images indexed and ranked?" ~ Gary Greene "How does one perform an image search?" ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== 301 Redirects ==-- ~ Justin March ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Aaron Wall Subject: Link vendors > ... I want to know if there are any vendors of links. Does anyone > have an experience to share on buying / selling text links? - Ajeet Khurana, LED 1825 I have not done a bunch of it, but I know two of the bigger brokers on the market are Patrick Gavin and TextLinkBrokers. There are many fake link broker who are nothing more than resellers, so you will want take the time to find one of the sources. Also some webmasters sell links to any site and get their outbound PageRank blocked to where they do not transfer any. aaron wall http://www.seobook.com ------- new post - same topic -------- From: Craig Benson Subject: Link vendors Ajeet, Have you seen http://www.marketbanker.com it's a company run by the same guy who did f***edcompany.com. With it you can buy or sell text link advertising. I've been using it for a while. The ads aren't as targeted as something like Google's Adsense but the nice thing about it is that advertisers can contract with specific web sites for selling links. Marketbanker has the facility for advertisers to search through its list of web sites selling space. Has worked fairly well for me even though the advertising tends to be pretty general. Craig Benson Know your mountain. http://www.mountainknowledge.com ------- new post - new topic -------- From: John Smart Subject: End of I-Sales > I'd really love to hear your thoughts - not just on the fate of > I-Sales [and the other I-Lists], but on the bigger picture here. - Adam, LED 1821 I stopped (some of) my I- subscriptions when I was sent a mail explaining what they were doing, and offering me the chance to unsubscribe. It was at a time when I was swamped with work, and whilst I wouldn't have looked to unsubscribe, when it was handed to me on a plate, I took it. Even though something is being given away, it still needs to be pushed. Certainly, there is an unsubscribe link on every mail (directly or indirectly through account management) but that is different to inviting your users to unsubscribe! I am sure that this was not the only reason for certain I-publications to cease, but Veronica Yuill points out that there was a *catastrophic drop* in participation (so I assume also in subscribers). Maybe this was in part because of the open door we were given. Veronica and Adam have also mentioned format -- HTML based e-Mails. I know some of my clients strip all HTML out of e-Mails (I think this is extreme, and just some HTML should be stripped -- but this is a whole new can of worms (or should that be can of spam?)). I also know that a lot of anti-spam software increases the spam likelihood of an e-Mail if it is HTML based. I know that I like my e-Mails to be text only. Although that may just be me being old fashioned! But simple text reduces many problems across different mail clients and operating systems. I am currently mortified by the fact that my e-Mail programs has been engulfed by Microsoft Word, so that the mails I send out are of the type I hate to receive! Rather than dwell on the down side to this, I think we should look for positive features. Some of the I-ers may not have been subscribers to the LED - maybe that will change, to the advantage of everyone (except, admittedly, Marketing VOX and the I- Modorators). Whilst LED doesn't appear to be lacking in any way, it never hurts to have more input and more opinions! John Smart InternetDesign.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Ken Evoy Subject: End of I-Sales There ain't no trick about it. You and your dad maintain(ed) a high signal-to-noise ratio. It's "all meat, all day" (sorry to vegans in the group, it's just an analogy!). :-) There's content... and then there's the voice that delivers the content. The "stuff between the lines" that can't be faked and that's as hard to catch as a warm summer breeze in Montreal (OK, I'm complaining about our weather again!). I loved i-sales and was a huge fan of your dad's (still am wherever he is and whatever he's doing). This list carries on that tradition with the same style, substance, and sincerity. All the best, Ken Evoy ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Rich Takaba Subject: End of I-Sales I think the rise of spam, and the tools to fight it, has also contributed to declining participation in email newslists. That, and the rise of email viruses have turned millions of people off to simply reading their email. I think the recent news of efforts to make every email trackable and their senders accountable, is a huge step in the right direction, and may bring back the confidence and participation in email newslists in the future. Richard Takaba http://mrbigxl.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Thom Reece Subject: End of I-Sales Aloha... I take a bit of a different view with regard to the demise of I-Sales... or any other discussion list. In my view, discussion lists are driven by the personality of the moderator. In the case of I-Sales, it began the long road to oblivion when John Audette ceased to be its moderator. John's drive, intellect, ethics, and insights drove I-Sales. His savvy questions and answers forced the rest of us to post only when we felt we could truly add substance to a discussion. Consequently, the level of advice and commentary on I-Sales was as high as you will find anywhere. John approach was that of a consummate professional, and he drew other top quality people into what proved to be a unique community. When John decided to move on, he left a gapping hole which, frankly, could not be filled by others... no matter how experienced or talented. Fortunately for us... his son did not fall far from the tree. It is his natural talent and personality which drive LED and, for that reason alone, I expect to see this list continue to enjoy a long life. Aloha, John... wherever you are. Thom Reece On-Line Marketing Resource Center http://www.e-comprofits.com ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Tom Anson Subject: Image search > Why would anyone want their images to be > indexed by a search engine? - Kathy Wilson Anderson, LED 1822 Kathy Wilson Anderson asks a great question: Why would anyone want their images to be indexed by a search engine? My original post of this question was basically asking this question. Since Google added image search, I've read some discussion of this. I never quite understood the purpose of it, but several people have indicated that it was important. Why? Kathy explains the down-side; can anyone offer an up-side? And if there is one, how does one get images indexed and ranked? Tom Anson Anson Aromatic Essentials http://www.therapeutic-grade.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Gary Greene Subject: Image search I have been reading this thread with some interest and I have a simple question. How does one perform an image search? Gary Greene www.simply-shopping.com gary, simply-shopping.com ==== BILLBOARD ==================================== From: Justin March Subject: 301 Redirects Hello everyone, Can anyone tell me how long it takes 301 redirects to have an effect on a sites search engine listing? Thanks in advance for your help, Justin March http://www.snapsurveys.com ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- [thanks to Craig Benson] "...if we can't have fun, at least we can suffer." - Conrad Anker |
