| LED Digest 1842: Freedom with CSS, also Filtering |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ................................................ July 19, 2004 Issue #1842 ................................................ .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Site Redesign Blues ==-- ~ Paul Ding "Anyone who uses Notepad to build a website flunks a basic IQ test..." ~ Ron Ritch "...I'm incorporating CSS in my designs and I find its giving me additional creative freedom." ~ Richard Dudley "Visual InterDev hasn't been the current version since 2000." --== The End of Email as You Know It? ==-- ~ Richard Graham "...what I now do is to 'filter in' keywords rather than filter them out." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Cached Pages ==-- ~ Steve Wicks --== Random Spam Email ==-- ~ Tom Aman ~ Frans Verhoef ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Paul Ding Subject: Redesign blues > Here are the basics: Tags are enclosed in brackets <tag>. Tags > are opened with the ordinary bracket, and closed with a </tag> > (bracket with a slash). HTML pages begin with <.html> and end > with <./html>. - Kathryn Martyn, LED 1840 Both Merriam-Webster Dictionary and American Heritage Dictionary agree: Kathryn Martyn was correct, and the the correction is wrong. > Those books and small articles don't cover the nuts and bolts. > Neither do they cover the issues of browser compatibility. You're reading the wrong books and articles. You certainly won't learn from the HTML specification that MSIE still doesn't implement the <.object> tag correctly. Neither will you learn about browser compatibility from the incompatible code that spews forth from InterDev, HomeSite and DreamWeaver. > Taking Notepad and starting from the beginning is > hand coding. More than likely no one does that based > upon what I've read in this thread. "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." - Yogi Berra. I offer 3 ways to build web pages online at Paulding Homes (pdhomes.net) - a template-based page builder where you fill in the forms, a snazzy custom page builder where you design the page as well, and a plain ordinary textarea for hand coders. About 90% of my users opt for the plain ordinary textarea. I prefer a decent text editor, myself - one that allows regular expressions in the search / replace, one that displays multiple files beside each other, so you can do comparisons, one that understands both DOS and Unix file formats so I can do all my uploads in binary. (I've yet to see an FTP or SFTP client that could tell whether a .cgi file was a script or a compiled binary.) It's not like 1985, when Brief was $500. You can get a good text editor these days for $30. Anyone who uses Notepad to build a website flunks a basic IQ test - if only they were dishonest as well, they would make a good President. Paul Ding Useful utilities paulding.net ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Ron Ritch Subject: Redesign blues Well, I guess I'm different too. I began with the web design programs and went from one to another never to be satisfied to create and maintain the fairly simple WebPages I use. Finally I went back to using a simple editor and find it by far the best for me. Now I'm incorporating CSS in my designs and I find its giving me additional creative freedom. The code for my pages is straight-forward and easily understandable. Best of all they are maintainable and upgradeable. We have used CSS to enable us to eliminate most of the tables we formerly used. We do not use frames. This is not to say we've never used frames or tables or anything else. We've tried almost anything you can think of at one time or another. But we have also learned what works for us best and what are some of the limitations of HTML are that aren't always spelled out in the books. Most of the books I've bought to learn HTML were either useless or lead me into bad habits coding. Of course there are exceptions and now I'm down to only one book which I use when something slips my mind. Ron Ritch ------- new post - same topic -------- From: Richard Dudley Subject: Redesign blues > [Microsoft's] professional tool is InterDev. - Lee Roberts, LED 1841 Actually, no. Their current 'professional' tool is Visual Studio NET 2003. Visual InterDev hasn't been the current version since 2000. While we're on the topic, Microsoft has released betas of their next generation tools. If you're interested in migrating your site to NET, you can start learning the .NET Framework 2.0. Visual Web Developer 2005 Express is the product focused on web development. The replacement for MSDE 2000 is SQL Server 2005 Express. You can obtain these from http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/. Rich Dudley www.bloomeryweddings.com ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Richard Graham Subject: "Filter-in" not "filter-out" Here's a tip that might help. My spam has now got silly with over 2,000 messages a day. I use Pair hosting and use their spam filters on "aggressive" but this isn't nearly enough. So what I now do is to "filter in" keywords rather than filter them out. All my mail goes to my junk folder and then I set up rules to pull out words and phrases that people are likely to use when contacting me. I know this has its downsides, but for me it's much, much more efficient. So it's maybe worth a try! Be genki, Richard Graham http://www.genkimaths.com ==== BILLBOARD ==================================== From: Steve Wicks Subject: Cached Pages On The Internet Hello All, How can I make sure that a browser ALWAYS pulls the recent web page from my server as opposed to pulling a cached page from the local machine? I have tried different codes to put in the HTML header but it doesn't seem to work. When I update a web page I usually have renamed all of my images and cell slicing information. I also delete the old images from the server. When I go to the internet with my browser to see the new web page, it comes up with all of the old information and makes my page look like crap because it hasn't pulled the latest info from the server! This is very irritating, plus I have some websites in which I will always want the viewer to see the updated information when they view the index page. I am thinking that I can have the header info on the page and then just put a server side include code to pull the rest of the page so that it always has to pull the rest of the page from a different file. Is this the best way? I haven't really seen that approach on other pages I've seen on the net...HELP! Steve Wicks ------- new post - new topic -------- From: Tom Aman Subject: Random email > I have been receiving spam emails that have strange strings > of words at the beginning and/or ending of the email. - Diane Dennis, LED 1839 Very simple Diane. The lists of random words (sometimes it is just lists of random groups of characters) are the spammers way of trying to get by spam filtering software. They are hoping these messages will not be filtered out - and in my experience they are wasting their time (and our bandwidth) because my spam filter has never passed one as being a good message. Tom Aman Aman Software http://www.cyberspyder.com ------- new post - same topic -------- From: Frans Verhoef Subject: Random email For most SPAM emails I do not even see the contents. I delete them by just looking at the subject line and from whom I received it. Most SPAM messages seem to have a from name which is randomly generated. This method means that I actually go through my daily email very fast. I get every day around 150 emails, of which up to 10 are real emails, and the rest is SPAM and/or Virus. Maybe the best method to fight SPAM would be to make it both illegal to send SPAM and to buy from SPAM emails. Because those few people that do react to SPAM emails are the cause of the current SPAM problem. If everyone would ignore SPAM, there would only be SPAM in the supermarket. Frans Verhoef ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Oliver Wendell Holmes |
