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July 26, 2004                          Issue #1847
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        <Moderator Comment>
                ~ Summer Changes

        --== Adding Disclaimers to Ezines? ==--

                ~ Ben Black
"From someone who has been there and done
that, posting a disclaimer is NOT enough."

        --== Site Redesign Blues ==--

                ~ Brad Waller
"...for someone just starting out who knows zero,
I think [that] can make FrontPage undesirable..."

                ~ Lee Roberts
"I often teach and many times use our site
to display examples."



==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== Removing a IE Hijacker ==--
                ~ Thomas Yoon


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<Moderator Comment>

Greetings,

I'm in the midst of an exciting and hectic time. I'm getting married
this Saturday and there are lots of things to juggle right now, and
with the "summer time lull" in full swing I think it's a good time
to transition to a schedule of three issues per week.

Unless anyone has any major objections, I'm thinking of a rather
unorthodox (but hopefully effective) schedule of Tuesday, Wednesday
and Thursday. That leaves the busy Mondays and the check-out Fridays
clear.

As soon as things pick up again (and after my honeymoon) I'll get us
back on the regular 5 day schedule we've been using for the last 6
years or so.

Thanks and I hope you have a great week. Comments are always welcome
(and so are some new posts!).

Best wishes,
Adam | adam, led-digest.com

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From: Ben Black
Subject: Ezine disclaimers

> So, my question to LED-ers is: Should you include
> disclaimers in your e-zine? If so, what should they say?
        - Martha Retallick, LED 1844

From someone who has been there and done that, posting a disclaimer
is NOT enough.  If it goes to court, you have to be able to PROVE
the customer acknowledged and agreed to it.  Not necessarily agreed
to it. If a reader has access to information you publish, you may be
held personally liable for it unless you have personally
investigated the claims / ads and can back up your findings.

In my case the legal precedent took place where the article was
downloaded by the customer. Not where I was based, not where the
site was hosted, not where the server was located and not from where
I had uploaded the information from.

There where five states of choice and the judge went with where the
person downloaded and printed the free 'click to ad'.  I settled for
a cash settlement to save my house, savings, retirement, and
professional licensure which were all listed on the suit.

My attorney said the only way to protect myself was for an opt in or
opt out page such as the adult sites have.  If the judge cannot get
past the opening opt in page of your site, you may be safe.  Consult
with your own attorney.

And yes, I had an iron clad legal disclaimer on every single page.
Even the judge noted it was on the ad that was printed out.
However, I could not prove the customer read the disclaimer prior to
reading the ad and acting upon it.

Ben Black


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From: Brad Waller
Subject: Redesign blues

Here's something I have not seen about FrontPage.  It is a tool, and
like any other can be used well by an experienced user.  For those
of us who understand HTML, the choice of program is one of personal
preference.  But for someone just starting out who knows zero, I
think the answer gets more complicated - and can make FrontPage
undesirable for certain users.

You don't have to have the best hammer to build a house, but it
helps. You don't have to have the best tools to maintain your car,
you just need tools that don't break.  When a novice picks up
FrontPage and starts using it without knowing that it adds code or
uses MS specific code, they can't just go to notepad (or UltraEdit,
as I like to) and fix the bad code.  They just use it and go on.

For any professional, use what you like and don't worry.  But to
send a newbie who knows zero to FrontPage and not explain to them
that they need to use the basics will lead them into trouble.  They
don't know that using the FP specific features to place images,
slide pictures across the screen, or shade text will make for
horribly obtuse code that will not render properly on non-MS
browsers.  They just see this cool feature and implement it.   Why
not, it works just fine on their computer.

If I ever run into a client with bloated and incompatible code, it
has been done with FrontPage.

I hate to write poorly of someone, but view the source on this site
(http://classroomclassifieds.com) and tell me that this is good
code. And, if you think that is as bad as it gets, this is after
pruning five times as much from there as I educate this client.
This page used to have four pictures fly into the frame from off
site, curved and shaded text, many positioned images, and really
confusing tables.

All this because the tool being used.  If there was a "newbie" mode
that only created sites with standard code, then it would be a great
tool as well for new users.  For someone who is not a computer type
and has never done any coding, they need to use a simpler program
that does not have as many features - and can't let them screw up so
easily.

Brad Waller
http://adjungle.com
waller, ep.com


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From: Lee Roberts
Subject: Redesign blues

> The center column on your site contains 3 paragraphs,
> each containing a string of title / sentence that missed
> a space... FrontPage which would have caught that...
> and brought it to my attention for correction.
        - Cheryl Berry, LED 1846

I haven't changed the code and invite you to look at the code.  The
error is in the code itself.  And it was in there for a purpose
believe it or not.

I often teach and many times use our site to display examples.
Often those examples are bad.

The particular issue Cheryl brings up is the inline heading and
inline paragraph.  If a space is not forced with the ampersand:nbsp;
no space will be visible.  Interesting dilemma there isn't it.

I hate to say this, but if the codes were looked at it would have
been obvious that what was on the surface was not what carried the
page.  Surely, a case to prove that WYSIWYG users don't get what
they actually see.

Sincerely,

Lee Roberts
http://www.roserockdesign.com


==== BILLBOARD ====================================

From: Thomas Yoon
Subject: IE Hijacker

No sure whether it is a worm or what, but my Internet Explorer seems
to be diverting and showing a screen of gocybersearch.com everytime
I use it. It has become a nuisance, and is disrupting my surfing
experience so much so that I am now using another browser.

Thomas Yoon
http://www.free-marine.com


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