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LED Digest 2273: Favorite SEO Tools? + Spamhaus Litigation Print E-mail
 An SEO intern asks about your favorite SEO tools and resources. The
 Spamhaus litigation - new developments? Some more great advice and
 tricks to foil contact form spam bots, and setting up Outlook filter rules.

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October 24, 2006                    Issue no. 2273
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....
                

====== NEW ======================

        --== Blog Experiments ==--

                ~ James Miller
"The post appeared in the search after only
56 seconds."

        --== Spamhaus Litigation ==--

                ~ John Smart
"We all have coocoo clients - you know, the
one(s) you did everything for..."

        --== New to SEO - Favorite Tools? ==--

                ~ Natalie Sheer
"I'm currently newly hired to a firm as an
intern (don't laugh)..."


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== AdWords Arbitrage - How it Works ==--

                ~ Waitman Gobble
"I use this to track content scraping..."

        --== Tracking Clicks ==--

                ~ Dejan Bizinger
"I can suggest you AdButler hosted service..."

        --== Junk Mail from Contact Forms ==--

                ~ Al Toman
"I threw together some very informative
web pages on this subject..."

                ~ Rich Dudley
"More sophisticated bots can crack the
CAPTCHA..."

                ~ Ed Clark
"...if you have 10 or more [sites] like I do,
it becomes a real problem."


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== Filtering Rules in Outlook ==--
                ~ Roger Hass


========== NEW ===================================

From: James Miller
Subject: The Integrated Blog and other Experiments

I've been running a blog alongside my book, Making the Most of the
Internet, for some time. Over the weekend, I experimented with my
Blogger template and was able to change it, so that the blog appears
to be a completely integrated part of the web site.

It was not difficult and took me about four hours, which included
moving the blog pages to my web site, adding a header to the blog
template and adjusting widths and colours to fit and match.

I put up a post and then searched for it using the Blogger search
facility.  The post appeared in the search after only 56 seconds.  I
tried it again and it took longer, but it still appeared very
quickly. This must be because every time you post, Blogger searches
and indexes your post.

I've also checked and Blogger doesn't add these results to Google.
But how long before it adds them immediately to the main Google
index?  And the other results it gets from posts and searches in
YouTube!  It is much quicker to index something that is presented to
you on a plate, rather than search pages and pages of information
that may not have changed.

So it would appear that if you want a quick reaction to news and
updates you post on your web site, then you should use something
like Blogger and integrate it fully into your web site.

There is also the fact that if the blog is stored on your web site,
that every time it is updated, then Google itself, will find more
pages to integrate, with new words describing your products and
services.

Will this take you to a higher position in Google?

James Miller

Daisy Analysis:
www.daisy.co.uk


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From: John Smart
Subject: Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me! *

I have read with interest the legal actions between a spammer, and a
black list filter company with interest, and the potential
implications are cause for concern.

Mr. David Linhardt acting as E360Insight has been accused of sending
out UCE in very large amounts. Spamhaus has added him to their black
lists, and he appears to be quite upset by this. In court in
Illinois, he managed to get a restraining order placed against
Spamhaus. Given that Spamhaus is based in the United Kingdom, and
has no staff / offices / agent in the USA let alone in Illinois, the
restraining order has no worth.

But it appears that the restraining order is just a piece of the
puzzle. Mr. Linhardt is now persuing ICANN and Tucows Open SRS to
have the domain name deactivated. This is an interesting
development. Let us assume for the moment that this works. Most
readers here, I think, are like me -- small to mid sized businesses.
We all have coocoo clients -- you know, the one(s) you did
everything for, bent over backwards for, then out of no where you
get legal papers served against you for no apparent reason.  Suppose
you mention some of this in your blog. Potentially the person who is
out to get you could deactivate your domain.

Suppose you own an ISP -- let's take AOL. And then in AOL someone
posts their web sites saying the Red Sox are no good cheats. (This
is not a commentary by me -- I know nothing about American sports!)
If the site got a huge amount of traffic, and if AOL said they had
no desire to take away the First Amendment rights of their user (AOL
taking the side of the user? This is a 'what if' scenario!) then
could the domain name AOL be placed in jeopardy?

Normally this sort of thing should not be a concern -- don't get me
wrong, I love my adopted country and am very happy to be here. That
said, the legal answers this country comes up with are not always
logical, reasonable, sensible or even fair.

* A quote from Kenneth Williams in Carry on Cleo -- no e-Mail can
match that genius's delivery!

John Smart
InternetDesign.com - A Human Touch in a Digital World


--------- new post - new topic ---------

From: Natalie V. Sheer
Subject: New to SEO - Tools

Hi,

I'm new to this list and actually pretty new to SEO too. I'm
currently newly hired to a firm as an intern (don't laugh) and
trying to learn as much as I can quickly. Part of my "homework" is
to join resources like this and work my way up the learning curve.

Okay, I'm starting pretty low down the curve. I'm probably being
pushy as a new subscriber, but can I ask a question? I'm wondering
what tools you SEO / SEM's are using. Desktop, Web-based apps that
can quickly find the crucial data for client sites, like exactly how
far a listing is buried in Google SERP. (I'm getting the lingo
down!)

Keyword research stuff - is Wordtracker still pretty much the way to
go?

What other tools and sites are really important to you? Help me
impress my boss! :-)

thanks

Natalie Sheer


======== CONTINUING ===============================

From: Waitman Gobble
Subject: AdWords arbitrage

Re: Scraper Sites

I use this to track content scraping.
http://www.linkkarma.com/

Basically you put a serial number on your pages, it makes it easy to
spot scrapers.

Take care,

Waitman Gobble
Los Altos, California


-------- new post - new topic ---------

From: Dejan Bizinger
Subject: Tracking clicks

> I have a non-commercial web site that someone
> wants to [advertise] on... How can I track how many
> people click on his banner / link to his web site?
        - Rob Forker, LED Digest 2271
        - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1261/55/

I agree with others that PHPAdsNew is a good open source software.

I can suggest you AdButler hosted service for tracking clicks. They
offer free and fee-based option. Free version is also full of nice
features and only thing is that they put 7.5% of your banner
rotation inventory with their ads. AdButler (both versions) supports
tracking Flash banners, all standard banner formats, campaign
management...

You can find more info at: http://www.adbutler.com

Please note that I'm not affiliated with AdButler in any other way
than being a client. We use that service on our very visited web
site for clients who ask click-thru tracking.

HTH,

Best regards,

Dejan Bizinger
http://www.emarketingblog.com


-------- new post - new topic ---------

From: Al Toman
Subject: Form junk

> ... someone has come up with a piece of software
> that automatically fills out my contact us forms online
> and submits them. Now I get emails coming through
> my CGI script that are full of ads.
        - Mark Frank, LED Digest 2270
        - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1257/55/

The Adam guy was kind enough to post my email on scripting contact
forms in a previous issue of the LED Digest [see issue 2258:
http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1092/55/].

I admire LED Digesters who are taking notice that spammers are
making money off of either your email address and/or your web site.
I don't know about all y'all, but that really p*#sses me off,
royally!

I'm not ready to publish my articles on blocker spam for the HTML
mailto tag or contact forms, however, I threw together some very
informative RAW web pages on this subject specifically for the LED
Digesters viewing.

You can start by going to http://studio9.ws/scripts/email-me.php or
contact me and I will call you.

Firstly, you'll find thousands of band-aids, fixes, radical scripts,
and what-nots to address bits and pieces of the problem.  Much of
this information is published on the W.W.W. simply to market "their"
web sites, nothing else.  Many scripts give false protection and may
even further encourage spammin' crackers.  The victims, of course,
being the webmasters who implement these what-nots and the millions
of us who receive email cr4p as a result of it.

Here, in the United States, the FCC is spending our money and doing
nothing.  Their Can-the-Spam law is about as useful as hunting down
a polar bear with nothing more then a piece of raw meat hanging from
your mouth (God bless, in advance.  Do you prefer Lillies of
Daisies?).

However, the problem is more easily addressed by

1) learning HTML, valid web design, good web design practices

2) with that, implement proper form validation

3) study the spammer's technique and methodology specific to your
web page's contact form (generally, the fix is, again, simple easy)

Without studying your particular issue, Mr. Mark, it is difficult to
assess accurately what is and what isn't.  I replaced the use of CGI
scripts years ago with PHP because PHP gives me 132% control.

ALL my web clients have these scripts in place for no charge (if
they paid for their web site).

In summary, I offer 5 (for now) very simple sure-fire ways to hunt
polar bears.  Two address how-to the mailto tag safely using
javascript.  The other three demonstrate the basic PHP script upon
which they all can be built for more comprehensive blocker spam.
This is because some web sites require more aggressive script than
others probably because of their social popularity!?!

The typical fix for header injection is to eliminate the line
spacing (\n\r) in your form's input text fields (such as name,
company, email, etc).

Spammers will use your supposedly single-line text fields to CC and
BCC a whole bunch of email addresses, including yours, by writing in
all the chapters of "WAR & PEACE" into your single-line text field.

Well, you can use simple valid, web-compliant html to eliminate the
problem.  Firstly, "maxlength" the input field, appropriately.
Secondly, your PHP validation script can either --

1) strip unwanted characters (such as "backslashes", "commas", "@",
"<", ">" etc) or

2) strip unwanted strings (such as "CC", "BCC", ".com", ".net",
"http", etc) or

3) accept only those characters relative to the field data (such as
a-zA-Z0-9, etc.)

That's it.

1) properly scripted HTML input forms
2) form field validation

What you cannot stop by doing this is you personally receiving
(because we already prevented the spammer from including 100's of
other email addresses) what appears to be legit emails (by the form
validator) but contain nasty messages.

This is where the "naughty word" data files and the "suspect IP"
data files come into play.  Note that a suspect IP may very well be
your Mom's computer that is being "used" and "abused".  Until Mom's
computer is "cleaned up", she can't use your contact form to contact
you.

Now, these files can become longer than a polar bear's ripping
teeth.  Therefore, it is important to study your specific attacks
and build your naughty word / IP files from there.  Consequently,
the delay to your users will be nanoseconds and not hours (and uses
less of your bandwidth).

Other techniques involve

1) elimination of the rapid-fired form submission

2) testing the form submission's origin (actually from your form or
from a header, an uri, etc)

3) capcha-like applications

The only way that all this junk mail is going to be reduced is if
ALL legit webmasters of the W.W.W. implement good web design
practices and form validation.  To all others, I'll gladly provide
the raw fresh meat!

Kind Regards,

Al Toman

studio9 web design
http://studio9.ws


-------- new post - same topic ---------

From: Richard Dudley
Subject: Form junk

Mark,

Yep, there are form bots.  One way of stopping them is to use a
CAPTCHA (see http://rjdudley.com/blog/CAPTCHAImagesForYourWebsite.aspx.
More sophisticated bots can crack the CAPTCHA, but this will stop most.

Rich Dudley
www.bloomery.com


-------- new post - same topic ---------

From: Ed Clark
Subject: Form junk

And as [Mark] Frank points out... it tends to migrate to all your
sites. And if you have 10 or more like I do, it becomes a real
problem.

Now let's take a look at what happens to servers that have this
amount of junk occur. If for instance you use AOL for an email
address as I do (not my fault, started way back when and must keep
main address) AOL will block the entire server where the Junk Mail
originates.  And then of course you can contact them... do a few
things... white list etc. and get mail moving again... but the
problem is still there.

I know that most LED'ers are more in tune with these problems then
Frank or myself, and I also solicit help with a permanent method of
dealing with these new 'bots that steal email address' and send
junk. I am teaching myself though this community and others....but
as I work another "job" need all the help I can get. Is the only
method to rid your site of contact forms? I am looking forward to
seeing contributions to this post.

Ed Clark


==== BILLBOARD ===================================

From: Roger Hass
Subject: Problem Creating Filtering Rules - Outlook

G'Day Folks - ("G'Day" is Australian slang = Hello in plain English,
for those that have never been or heard of Australia)

I need some help and advice for setting up "Create Rules... in
"Microsoft Outlook" any version, particularly 2003 which I use most
often. Seems I'm having problems in setting up the rules to place
these e-mails when they arrive, into their designated folders.

E.G. - The 1st two and others from, are supposed to go into the
"Inbox 016 Woodyswatch"  Folder, however as the "bounce-234...."
numbers keep changing, and the Subjects keep changing, setting up
the rule for these that will work on all e-mails from Woodyswatch,
seems to be impossible, or I just have not worked out which
combination of rules will work.

1. From: This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ; on behalf
of; Access Watch [ This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ]
Subject: AW #8.16 - Storing Data in Database Custom Properties

2. From: This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ; on behalf
of; Office Watch [ This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ]
Subject: OW #11.39 - One threat fixed, another pops up

As to these (3,4 and 5), they are supposed to go into the "Inbox 017
Subs Newsletters Reports" folder and again I have a better chance of
winning Lotto.

3. From: Linux Today Security
[ This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ]
Subject: Your Linux Today Security Letter for October  4, 2006

4. From: SearchEngineWatch
[ This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ]
Subject: SE Report #118

5. From: ScriptSearch Daily
[ This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ]
Subject: ScriptSearch Daily Update: 10-04-2006

And Microsoft Newsletters and other notifications from Microsoft,
I'm at the stage of un-subscribing, as no rules seem to work for
these to go into the "Inbox 019 Microsoft" Folder and they just keep
going into the main "Inbox" folder, as do all the others where the
rules just do not work for me.

From: Microsoft [ This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ]
Subject: Microsoft Security Advisory Notification

Any advice on setting up the "Create Rules... in "Microsoft Outlook"
any version, particularly 2003 which I use most often, would be
greatly appreciated. As I don't think I'm the only one that has some
difficulty in setting up the Rules to have the e-mails we receive,
go into the designated folders, your help will be most welcome to
all.

Ah Yes, the LED Digest e-mails are very obedient and all go to their
designated eMail Folder "LedDigest"

Regards

Roger Hass

PC-Bug Fixer
www.pcbugfixer.com


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