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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== Guest Moderator: Published by: Veronica Yuill LED Digest post,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ................................................ Septmember 1, 2004 Issue #1863 ................................................ .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ====== NEW ====================== --== Alternative Browsers ==-- ~ John Barrick "Never, and I mean it folks, never start your web site viewing in IE...." ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Email Autoresponders ==-- ~ Martha Retallick "Get an outside host to run the autoresponder software, keep your e- mailing list, etc..." ~ Roberta Peters "the Internet is "fluid", so this system could wind up blocked one day, too..." --== Has Your Site Been "Stolen"? ==-- ~ Tom Aman "...this kind of hi-jacking seems to violate their terms..." ~ David Tartaglia "The content may not have been stolen but inadvertently look like it has been stolen..." --== The Future of SEO ==-- ~ Jill Whalen "If these website owners are trading links within their directories, don't the directories end up pretty much being carbon copies of each other?..." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Metatags ==-- ~ George Evers ===== NEW ================================= From: John Barrick Subject: Alternative Browsers Our moderator wrote: >>Your thoughts on the increasing use of other browsers? Is IE seriously threatened? Are you making changes to your sites to accommodate users of non-Microsoft browsers?<< Making changes to our sites to accommodate, what? Eh? Web developers should know by now to *begin* their coding using Mozilla or FireFox, then they hack the CSS for IE. Then, if your audience uses Macintosh (usually art and education audiences, also some goverment orgs have Mac in their specs), you'll need to go do some further hacking for MacIE. Never, and I mean it folks, never start your web site viewing in IE unless that is the only crowd you are interested in. And believe me, I hear you thinking, "why would I care about any browser but IE?" That makes me warm and fuzzy inside because it means I'll always have work fixing people's sites who one day happen to see it fall apart on their friend's Mac. Here's an article on that coding process: http://www.waycoolwebdesign.com/website-design/resources... John Barrick http://www.WayCoolWebDesign.com ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Martha Retallick Subject: Autoresponders Here are a couple of suggestions: 1. Get an outside host to run the autoresponder software, keep your e-mailing list, and monitor the subscribes, unsubscribes and bounces. I've been using Databack Systems for hosting my e-zine since 2002. New subscribers can sign up for a three-part postcard marketing course, which is delivered via autoresponder. I highly recommend Databack, especially for their daily reports of subscribes, unsubscribes and bounces. URL: http://www.databack.com 2. Install and run autoresponder software on your own server. Before you do this, check with your Web host to see if they allow this sort of thing. Not all hosts do. Willmaster's Master E-responder V2 is a package that I've looked at, and would like to install on the next business website I'm building for myself. URL: http://willmaster.com/master/me/ And give the Master E-responder V2 "365 Sayings" demo a try: URL: http://willmaster.com/master/me/demo/ It uses Master E-responder V2 to send a year's worth of pithy sayings. You'll enjoy them. Hope this helps! Martha Retallick, "The Passionate Postcarder" ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Roberta Peters Subject: Autoresponders Brett, I know what you mean about the autoresponder problem. I've been fighting it, too. Right now I'm using iProDirect. They are very new and very reasonable to subscribe to (29.95/mo). You can check them out at http://www.iprodirect.com. If you like what you see and want to sign up, I'd actually appreciate you signing up from my page, as I get a bonus of a few free leads for that. ;-) When you sign up with them, you get a subdomain, so it looks like it's your domain to customers. For example, mine is http://4success.iprodirect.com. Mainly, though, I'm not getting shut off everywhere, except with aol, as always. But, the Internet is "fluid," so this system could wind up blocked one day, too. Another really good autoresponder program (also very new) is MailBoxStudio.com, which you purchase outright. There are several price levels, from $99 to about $250, I think (not sure), with varying degrees of functionality and support. The advantage with iPro is that it's web-based. MailBoxStudio is installed on your computer, so if your ISP blocks port 25, you're out of luck. I'm sure there are other good ones out there, too. These are two I just learned of. Good luck, Roberta Peters ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Tom Aman Subject: Has Your Site Been "Stolen"? >> I won't go into the technical details, but I discovered that this site, http://directory.hostnetwork.org which appears to be a directory, is actually displaying the content of sites as if it was it's own. When you click on a listing, it takes you to the site, but the domain remains that of hostnetwork.org!<< - Chris Nielsen, LED 1860 You say that when you click a listing the domain remains that of hostnetwork.org. Does it show hostnetwork.org or directory.hostnetwork.org. There is a difference! Doing this without frames is a fairly minor technical thing to handle via a Web server. As for "This Site has been Suspended!" being fake, this could be for real (I get this message) and you could be seeing a cached copy that will eventually disappear. Possibly Road Runner has cached it, or it could be your own browser. In IE, check Tools/Internet Options/General tab/Settings and make sure the check for newer pages is NOT set to Never. Also, try clicking "Clear History" to clear the local cache. The reason blocking the mentioned IP addresses works is that one of those (216.144.233.206) is the IP address for http://directory.hostnetwork.org. Using http://216.144.233.205 or http://216.144.233.206 both return the suspended message. hostnetwork.org (without the "directory" prefix) is actually a hosting company and http://hostnetwork.org points to a completely different IP address (63.251.83.54). Since hostnetwork.org includes contact info on their page, I would suggest emailing them about the problem since this kind of hi-jacking seems to violate their terms. Hopefully they will do something about it (unless the suspended message is for real and the problem has already been handled.) Tom Aman Aman Software (http://www.cyberspyder.com) Home of CyberSpyder Link Test ------- new post - same topic ------- From: David Tartaglia Subject: Has Your Site Been "Stolen"? If you have a url forwarded to another url the url you were forwarded to will remain in the address space. Say, for instance, you own both www.zzz.com and www.newzzz.com and you wanted anyone who typed in www.zzz.com forwarded to www.newzzz.com. You could have your domain name host set up url forwarding and www.zzz.com would be forwarded to www.newzzz.com and thus appear to the user as though they entered www.newzzz.com when they really entered www.zzz.com. The interesting feature of this forwarding is that any direct link from www.newzzz.com will appear to be www.newzzz.com content because www.newzzz.com will continue to show up in the address space. The only way the address will change is to have your links open in a new window. What I'm trying to say is that the content may not have been stolen but inadvertently look like it has been stolen a result of url forwarding. I've seen this happen many times with url forwarding. David Tartaglia ------- new post - new topic ------- From: Jill Whalen Subject: The Future of SEO This is really just a question for Dirk Johnson, but I thought others might be wondering the same thing, so I decided to send it in. In LED 1861 Dirk wrote: >>The shrewd website owner hunts down these opportunities and gets their sites listed in them. Like everything else that really matters in business, it takes work, skill, focus, preparation, commitment, time and money. As well as the willingness to reciprocate and manage a directory on their end, too. It's no free ride, by any means.<< If these website owners are trading links within their directories, don't the directories end up pretty much being carbon copies of each other? How do you keep this from happening using your strategy, or is it not a problem? Thanks! Jill Whalen Don't Miss the High Rankings SEO/SEM Boston Seminar Sept. 23 & 24 http://www.highrankings.com/ledseminar ==== BILLBOARD ==================================== From: George Evers Subject: Meta Tags I recently came accross a site http://www.go4bpo.com/resoures.htm with this information in the meta tag: <.meta name="googlebot" content="all"> <.meta name="robots" content="all,index, follow"> <.meta name="revisit-after" content="5 days"> Do you think it works? George Evers ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience." - Dilbert |
