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LED Digest 2279: The Sweet 16 Print E-mail
 Business strategy and ethics in the Sweet 16: Principles for Succeeding
 in Business on the Internet. A Click Fraud updated from David Yancey,
 Marketing on the Web and strategic planning, and Wordpress!

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November 1, 2006                    Issue no. 2279
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....
                

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        <Moderator Comment>

        --== Click Fraud Update ==--

                ~ David Yancey
"...the sooner this mess is cleared up, the
better for the entire interactive industry..."


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Blog Experiments ==--

                ~ Brett Simpson
"I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to blow the
money on these other [Wordpress] systems..."

        --== It's not WEB Marketing ==--

                ~ Rae Deisler
"[Increasing] your credibility, authority, etc [is an]
important overall strategy if you ask me."

        --== The Sweet 16 ==--

                ~ Barry S Mills
"Please let legitimate companies communicate
normally with their customers unmolested..."

                ~ Mike Banks Valentine
"Serendipity plays a huge role in both our
personal and business lives."


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --= What About Ajax? ==--
                ~ John Smart

        --== New Browsers: Firefox 2 and IE7 ==--
                ~ Michael Drucker
                ~ Tom Aman


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<Moderator Comment>

The Sweet 16 is getting lots feedback. Maybe I should start ordering
you to click on things in every issue (note to self: new advertising
idea). Just kidding.

Thanks for the comments and insights. You'll find a select few
published today and the rest right here:

http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1286/174/#jc_allComments

Also - for those of you who got 500 errors trying to access the SEM
glossary. Looks like the site can't handle the traffic! pair.com is
working on getting things straightened out (fatter pipes and a
dedicated server). In the meantime it should be serving pages
without errors now. Sorry about that.

SEO/M Glossary: http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1295/174/

Adam

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From: David Yancey
Subject: Clickfraud Update

Here's the latest update on clickfraud, as larger companies begin to
realize that they are being had by the search industry:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/30/technology/30adco.html

(Access for the next 10 days or so is free, but you need to be
registered on the New York Times site)

In spite of ever more public evidence of fraud, and ever-better
understanding of how the search industry is either in denial of the
problem or is in complicity to some degree with the bad guys, there
will be those who persist in saying that clickfraud is not a serious
issue. These will argue that the % of fraudulent or simply useless
clicks is not important, if the remainder of clicks produce
sufficient conversions with adequate profit margins to pay for the
PPC program and make some money.

From the perspective of an advertiser, however, if a PPC medium
charges for X amount of clicks, when Y% of those clicks are not
valid for some reason, this is a case of non-delivery, just as if a
magazine claims A readers when an audit actually shows A minus B
readers, or a when CPM-priced web publication "under delivers" on
the promised number of ad impressions in a given month.

Sooner or later the search industry, along with online publishers
who are (innocently or not) benefiting from the fraudulent behavior,
will have to own up to the reality, as this article makes clear.

Stockholders in Google and the other companies whose revenues and
earnings are tainted by clickfraud scams may take a hit, along with
the companies.  But the sooner this mess is cleared up, the better
for the entire interactive industry: eliminating clickfraud scams
and anti-competitive behavior will remove one of the main barriers
currently preventing millions of smaller businesses from using PPC
and related advertising.

David Yancey
http://www.tootoographic.com
"See us now in Amazon.com too!"


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From: Brett Simpson
Subject: Blog experiments

Hi Gary,

> We now use WordPress for all our blogs,
> to keep total control over them.
        - Gary Mawdsley, LED Digest 2274
        - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1277/55/

I wonder about what template / package you use if any?

I'm finally exploring blogs myself and want to use WordPress, I set
it up in 5 mins, then came the hard part, according to template
systems such as SemioLogic Pro ($295):
http://www.semiologic.com/software/

and technologies such as Blog & Ping, and software such as Blog
Equalizer ($147): http://www.bloggingequalizer.com

I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to blow the money on these
other systems, or if running Word Press out of the box will handle
issues such as no 'trackback links', and other anomolies, do you
have any 'words of wisdom' Gary, anyone?

Thank You,

Brett Simpson
http://www.thedreamtime.com


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From: Rae Deisler
Subject: Marketing on the Web

> I like to summarize this by saying, "It's not WEB Marketing;
> it's MARKETING on the Web."  From that perspective, I state
> a simple model of the five factors...
        - Michael Linehan, LED Digest 2278
        - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1297/55/

This is a great post. I agree w/ the overall sentiment - strategic
planning should be the net that holds all the little pieces of
business together. But I do have a couple problems here--

> Let's consider the critical tasks a website needs to
> accomplish -- bring people to the site, make the sale
> and develop relationships with prospective and current clients.

... and increase your mindshare in the target audience. Increase
your credibility, authority, etc - important overall strategy if you
ask me.

> What accomplishes these three critical tasks are the
> information, products and services offered, how well
> the language of the site captures people's attention
> and make the sale, and the actions that promote
> the site and bring people there.

Okay, but isn't info, products / services offered, isn't this good
design and usability? We're back to technology. How well the
language of the site - copywriting is critical - and that's
marketing, I agree.

> Strategic Planning, Content, Design, Technology and Promotion

The technology must come before content and design, but yes these
are good first principles. How about this:

Strategy > Technology > Design > Content > Marketing

...I really am feeling nitpicky today!

Rae Deisler

Comments? http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1296/172/


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From: Barry Mills
Subject: Sweet 16

> There is an inherent contradiction between Principle #1
> (Maintain Absolute Integrity) and the pro-spamming example
> about the launch of Adventive.com touted as being 'good
> business' in Principle #3 (Put the Power of Inertia on Your Side.)
        - Trevor Johnson, LED Digest 2278

No Way Trevor, I'm not having that. John Audette was / is one of the
great anti-spam champions of the internet industry. He hates spam
with a passion. So did most of his subscribers - I know this because
I moderated I-sales for a while and every time the subject came up
we were bombarded with posts. Absolutely no-one felt they were being
spammed by Adventive, or by John.

Spam is a bad thing, and fighting it is good, but some perspective
and common sense are needed.  If a computer supplier sends a
(printed) catalogue to random addresses, that's junk mail. If they
send a specific offer of an accessory to people who've previously
bought from them the type of computer the accessory is for, that's
not junk at all, it's just good customer service and good business
communications.

Similarly, sending a sample publication to existing regular
subscribers of a sister publication is not spam by any legal
definition I know of (certainly it would be 100% legal in the UK,
and we have strong anti-spam laws) nor by any rational one. It isn't
unsolicited, there is an existing business relationship, and there
is a very strong reason to believe that readers of one publication
would be interested in the other.

Most readers of I-sales or other publications, myself included, saw
the Adventive.com list as a useful addition that helped us get more
out of our subscription by summarising the key topics of the week
and providing a sign-board to the full discussions on issues we
might have missed. The handful that didn't like it would have had no
concerns about unsubscribing, since they would have known that
Adventive was a well run organisation who would act immediately on
their unsubscribe request, and treat their data and privacy with
respect.

It's very important that people in the internet industry continue to
give mind share to the combating of spam, as unchecked it is a
genuine threat to the usefulness of e-mail as a communications
medium. But the pathological defining of virtually any business
e-mail as spam is almost as destructive to the medium as spam
itself. Normal people WANT companies we deal with regularly to
communicate with us, and we EXPECT them to do so, without us having
to go to the trouble of pro-actively requesting each and every
individual communication.

Please let legitimate companies communicate normally with their
customers unmolested, and don't confuse them with real spammers in
your arguments, or you will simply discredit the argument in the
eyes of most people and reduce the chances of authorities and the
wider public ever taking the spam issue sufficiently seriously to
address it.

Barry S Mills

Netstep Corporate Communications
http://www.netstep.co.uk

Comment? http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1286/174/


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From: Mike Valentine
Subject: Truths of Business

Commenting on the Sweet 16 is like commenting on many other things
considered "Truths" because you just can't get a handle on anything
you disagree with beyond minor semantics. Although someone
inevitably disagrees with the meaning of a phrase (as in the
spamming comments above - first attacker, then defender).

Agreeing in a "me too" fashion with those 16 principles is rather
pointless as well and doesn't contribute to a conversation either.
All we can do is nod our heads as we read. We should occasionally
revisit and reread and nod some more, then contribute thoughts as
they relate to new developments in online business.

Many of the latest developments in online business have much to do
with community (#14) with the label of "Social Media" applied to
them. Social bookmarking, tagging, photo sharing, review sites... So
at times, one principle or another is emphasized as the latest
success and everyone goes stampeding toward that principle to the
detriment of the others. (Hey, there's a new principle - #17 Don't
over-emphasize any one principle to the detriment of the others.)

While I agree with the 16 principles, there is one thing I believe
is a bit understated:

"I wish I was smart enough to have thought all this through when I
launched I-Sales. I wasn't. Fortunately there are times in life when
serendipity plays a large role in things -- and this was one of
them."

We simply can't know everything or deal with every aspect,
regardless of our thorough business plans. Serendipity plays a huge
role in both our personal and business lives. We simply need to
choose a path, pay attention to events and adapt to them with
Integrity (#1), then see how that fits our Passion (#2). The rest
(#3-16) each follow in their place.

Mike Banks Valentine
http://realityseo.com

Comment? http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1286/174/


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From: John Smart
Subject: Ajax

Ajax -- Looks like fun.

I purchased a book "Ajax for dummies" (the 1st dummies book I ever
purchased!) and I have to say I find the book frustrating, I like
the "Bible" books and the Wrox publications. Which leads to two
discussions:

What are you doing with Ajax, is it as good as the hype?

What books are worth reading? On anything in this industry -- I can
recommend some excellent PHP books "Wrox Beginning PHP 4 is
fantastic! As is Converse Parks PHP 4 Bible. I also often refer to
my Sams PHP and MySQL Web Development.

Another book I am playing with at the moment is the Wrox RSS and
Atom Programming book which breaks the subject down very well indeed.

John Smart
InternetDesign.com - A Human Touch in a Digital World


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From: Michael Drucker
Subject: New browsers

> With IE7 I did lose my "home" button. You can just launch
> a new tab to get to your home page, but I do miss the button.
        - John Smart, LED Digest 2278

I just loaded the new IE7 and the Home button is on the third task
bar, the fifth button from the right. The buttons are: Home, RSS,
Print, Page, Tools, and >>. Selecting >> opens a drop-doww box with:
Help, Create Mobile Favorite, and Messenger. I am running version
7.0.5730.11.

Michael H. Drucker
www.mhdconsulting.com


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From: Tom Aman
Subject: New browsers

John, how did you lose the "home" button?  I started using IE7 when
they made RC1 (Release Candidate 1) available and, just this
morning, installed the actual release.  The "home" button is still
there, just in a different place (would love to know the reasoning
behind moving it).

On my IE, at least, it is just above the display area on the right
side of the browser, along with things like the Print button, etc.

Of course the selection of buttons can be customized so perhaps you
inadvertantly removed "home" - right click in the menu area, select
Customize Command Bar / Add or Remove Commands and you can put it
back.

Tom Aman

Aman Software
http://www.cyberspyder.com


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