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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam,led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ............................................... October 13, 2004 Issue #1881 ............................................... .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ======= NEW ===================== --== Atomz Search - Now with Ads! ==-- ~ Helen Estlin "...we have encountered competitor ads appearing on our clients' site searches." ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Anti-Virus Software? ==-- ~ Martin Kersten "...a complaint I see with users these days...is that systems are really getting slow!" ~ Peggy Deras "I found Norton to be annoying when I first bought the program..." ~ Tom Aman "I have used McAfee for many years..." ~ John Barrick "...maybe consider buying a Macintosh." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Outlook & Act? ==-- ~ Geoff Lee ======== NEW ==================================== From: Helen Estlin Subject: Atomz site search For the past five years Atomz has provided free site search. Many web designers and individuals have taken advantage of this service. In mid September Atomz announced that, effective September 30th, certain enhancements would be made to the Express Search programme. They also announced that search results would include advertising. Sure enough, paid advertising has now begun to appear in site search results. The problem is that we have encountered competitor ads appearing on our clients' site searches. Were our clients to discover this on their own, we would find ourselves with more than the proverbial egg on our face. While we understand their need to reassess their situation in providing what must have been a costly pro bono programme over this five year period, we don't feel that this was the best way of going about dealing with the matter. We have been in contact with Atomz and it seems that their sales department has been buried in questions and complaints, as you might expect. They advised us that they have suddenly implemented a thirty day grace period, ending October 31st. In their words ------------------- "... there is an option available in your search account (on the Update Account page in the Account menu) that will allow you to prevent the ads from appearing in your search results for a short time. Look for a checkbox labelled "Delay Start of Advertisements" and it will give you until November 1 before the ads will show up again." ------------------- They further advised us as follows: ------------------- "We understand that displaying ads is not right for all sites. During this transition period to the new advertising, we are offering an option to remove the sponsored advertising at the cost of $250 per year per account. This offer will expire by October 31, 2004." ------------------- Does anyone know of any other free site search that they have been using that would perform the same functions that Atomz used to? Regards, Helen Estlin YellowDawg Web Design www.yellowdawg.com ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Martin Kersten Subject: Anti-virus Well all I have to say about Symantec products with all respect. Years ago when I still worked with Windows 98 and tried to remove software from them it started behaving like a virus. Software was removed but then still I got startups as if these programs from Symantec still where running but they were removed. It took me quite a while to remove their registry entries and pictures (considered spam). Also a complaint what I see with users these days from their products is that systems are really getting slow !!! So that is why I decided already long time ago to stop using software from them. By the way I discover there are more and more free products on the market (example already given AVG) which are working better and less memory eating than products from example big companies like Symantec. I think companies like Symantec want too much and cause more unexpected errors and trouble with all their extras. It is a hype these days for companies to integrate as much as possible and in the end they will lose because their main goal is lost in all the new extras they give you. And so these products become more and more just a toy for a short period whereafter you decide to never use their products anymore. The best for companies like them is to stick with the things they do good, but for now I don't use their products anymore. More and more I go for the alternatives. Friendly regards Martin Kersten Dolmar IT http://dolmarit.com ------- new post - same topic ------- From: Peggy Deras Subject: Anti-virus I've been using McAfee Viruscan Online for years. I found Norton to be annoying when I first bought the program years ago and never looked back after going with McAfee. It handles viruses exactly as you request, by deleting them and then notifying me of the deletion. One time McAfee quarantined a virus and asked what to do about it, but that was years ago. I like the automatic update services (they ask first). My antivirus is never out of date because I got lazy and didn't update. Peggy Deras, CKD, CID Kitchen Artworks www.kitchenartworks.com ------- new post - same topic -------- From: Tom Aman Subject: Anti-virus Personally, I use McAfee Online. I have used McAfee for many years and have always found it works well and is constantly kept up to date. It can be set to do updates automatically whenever an update becomes available, or to notify you and let you do the update on your schedule (my choice, since the ocassional update requires a restart of your computer and I need to ensure that I am not doing something critical when this is needed). With regard to email, when it finds a virus in one (usually in an attachment), it does not delete the email but it does clean the virus then adds an attachment to let me know what it has done. Makes it easy to spot these virus containing messages so I can just delete them. Added bonus - McAfee checks sent email to ensure an outgoing message does not contain a virus (safety net in case a virus / trojan does take over you machine - prevents you from unintentionally infecting others). It will also watch the "Subject" used in outgoing emails and warn if multiple messages are being sent with the same subject - again this is in case your machine has been taken over and is being used to send spam without your knowledge. It also checks attachments sent via instant messages, catches Web sites that attempt to do bad things (load a virus, contain a "no close" script, etc.) as well as the usual checking of downloads, etc. and the routine scanning of your system. Tom Aman Aman Software http://www.cyberspyder.com ------- new post - same topic -------- From: John Barrick Subject: Anti-virus I know a lot of people disregard this comment right out of hand but maybe consider buying a Macintosh. Think of the value of this peace of mind - I'm 35, have been using computers at home since around 1985, and never had one single virus. Never had Anti-Virus software on my Mac, don't need it. John Barrick http://www.waycoolwebdesign.com ==== BILLBOARD =================================== From: Geoff Lee Subject: Outlook & Act I bought a copy of ACT as it is advertised to be completely integrated with Outlook - however, it can be a real pain if I want to merge more than 3 emails and then send by Outlook... ACT admits there is a problem in their notes... Nobody seems to have a solution to the problem... I have searched the internet but perhaps there is someone out there that may be able to solve it... Kind regards, Geoff Lee, UK National Director www.torrevieja.uk.com ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2004 Adam Audette. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box." - Italian Proverb |
