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August 10, 2007                    Issue no. 2468
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


======= NEW ====================

        --== Pop-ups and Pop-unders ==--
                ~ Brett Atkin

        --== What to do with a Second Domain? ==--
                ~ Gillian Fernandez


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Keyword Density ==--
                ~ Shaun Johnston

        --== Free Consultations ==--
                ~ Biana Babinsky

        --== SEO and Web Standards ==--
                ~ Tom Aman


========== NEW ===================================

From: Brett Atkin
Subject: Pop-ups / Pop-unders

First off, I hate these things but I have a big client who wants to
use them. I want to make one last pitch to talk him out of it and I
need your help.

Their ideal client is a Fortune 1000 type, not a make money at home
type.  Beyond the obvious reasons (annoying, browser blocking and
unprofessional), what can I say to them?  Any unbiased studies out
there that analyze the success rates?

Maybe I'm all wrong and these thing work great.  I'd like to hear
that side of the issue as well from those that use / used them with
success.

Thanks.

Brett Atkin
http://www.brettatkin.com


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From: Gillian Fernandez
Subject: What to do with the 2nd domain name??

Hi,

The main site is ever-so-sexy.com and for the last 11 months we've
also had the .co.uk version hosted separately with a few pages about
the product and links to the main site.  Now as it comes up to renew
the hosting package on the co.uk we can't decide whether to carry on
in the same manner, or point the .co.uk to the .com, or to develop
the .co.uk site as a separate outlet with it's own product, cart,
payment facility etc.

The business is quality lingerie, and the competition is great, so
it would seem attractive to have another "shop" out there,
especially as it would give us the opportunity to focus on the needs
of the UK customer base more closely, but as it would be just a
variant of the same domain name and inevitably we would have some of
the same product lines on both sites would Google view this as
duplication and penalise us?

Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Many thanks,
Gillian Fernandez


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From: Shaun Johnston
Subject: Keyword density

> It's really important to choose keyword *phrases*
> (never single words) carefully...
        - Lorelle Smith, LED Digest 2467
        - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1878/190/

This may be the exception that proves the rule -- I sometimes
sponsor single broad keywords in search engines, I think they can
occasionally be appropriate. I operate in a very narrow high-traffic
niche that can be specified in the search engines demographically.
Visitor region: New York City Metro Area. Sex: female. Age: 30-55.
This defines my ideal prospect very precisely. Then I sponsor very
general keywords, such as "vacation" or "getaway."

Because I publish directories for getaway- and vacation-lodgings in
regions close in around NYC, there's a high likelihood I can show
those prospects what they're looking for. Of course, the
effectiveness of this tactic depends on the accuracy of search
engine demographics. Got any thoughts on that? Is my signal-to-noise
ratio likely to be small?

Shaun Johnston
www.nycgetaways.com


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From: Biana Babinsky
Subject: Free Consultations

> I get a lot of people who want a free consultation
> in different forms... Have any LEDers had this type
> of situation in your respective fields? How did you
> handle it more effectively?
        - Shari Thurow, LED Digest 2465
        - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1876/190/

Hi,

I offer a 30 minute free "Getting To Know You Consult" to service
professionals, who are interested in my online marketing coaching. I
do pre-qualify them before talking to them. My time is valuable, so
doing the pre-qualification work helps me see who is serious about
working with me and who is in it for the consult.

First, I make sure that they know that the goal of the consult is
for them to get to know me and for me to get to know them and see if
there is a fit for us to work together. It is not a free service
session. We spend the time talk about their business and how I can
help them.

Second, I ask them to fill out a pre-consult questionnaire for me to
get to know their business. Doing this also shows a commitment and
interest from their side.

But what helped me even more is creating products - E-books, Home
Study Guides, Members-Only Web Site and Seminars. When I get e-mails
from prospective clients asking about my services, many times I can
tell that the one-on-one service may not be appropriate for them.
However, an e-book or some other product might be very useful.

When I am able to offer my products to people who can't afford my
services, or are on the fence about them, I am able to generate
revenue from the situations that I would not be able to get anything
out of if I only had my services to offer.

If you are a service professional who offers ONLY services, I
strongly recommend to look into creating multiple streams of income
by creating and selling products in addition to services.

Biana Babinsky
Free Report, "How To Get Clients Online"
http://www.avocadoconsulting.com/free_report.html


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From: Tom Aman
Subject: SEO standards

> The HTML standards argument is an emotional issue, not
> a technical issue. Browser don't need standards-compliant
> pages, search engines don't need standards-compliant pages,
> and so search engine optimization really doesn't benefit
> from standards compliance.
        - Michael Martinez, LED Digest 2466
        - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1877/190/

While browsers will work with pages that are not
standards-compliant, I would argue that it is a technical, not an
emotional, issue.  There is a better chance of a page functioning as
expected if it is compliant (although I do admit to seeing the
occasional page that is compliant and does not display as expected).

Aside from that, the original philosophy of the Internet was that
the server side (your page) should be as correct as possible and
agents (like your browser) should be as forgiving as possible to
help make things work. Unfortunately, the forgiving clients
philosophy has resulted in a lot of very sloppy and often incorrect
HTML (and probably CSS as well) because they display OK.

Interestingly, about once a week I run across a page that will not
function correctly in one browser (I use both Netscape and IE 7) but
works fine in another - usually, if I take time to look at the
source, I see it is because some part of the HTML in the page is
incorrect, and sometimes it is only a minor error in the tagging
that caused the failure.

Tom Aman

Aman Software
http://www.cyberspyder.com


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