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September 12, 2007                   Issue no. 2490
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        --== Customer Service Pet Peeves ==--

                ~ Grant Crowell
"...but always consider the possibility of
honest mishaps."

                ~ Carolyn Ryals
"In the early days of the web, sending an email
could mean days, weeks or never getting a reply."

                ~ John Wagner
"It reminds me of a time when I was traveling
in a third world country by air..."

                ~ Michelle Tackabery
"It could be a culture problem within the company,
and not a simple 'they are lazy' problem."


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From: Grant Crowell
Subject: Answering Customer Emails

In LED #2489 [ http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1901/190/ ],
Ron Coble wrote about his bad customer service experience with an
ecommerce site:

> I registered and promptly used their contact form to send
> them a request asking how much it would be to deliver the
> chair in their brochure (and on their very nicely designed web
> site) to my fathers location. As I write this, it has now been
> 3 weeks and never so much as a reply. Now wouldn't you
> think that if someone is asking about delivery charges that
> they are pretty far into the purchase decision and you would
> want to follow up with that person immediately?

I agree that any company, no matter what size or industry, should
have a prompt turnaround time on their contact form - I myself
follow the rule of no longer than 24 hours. Under extreme
circumstances, we adjust our email replies so that people will be
notified in advance of our estimated response time.

However, we have had cases from an over-protective email hosting
system which has filtered out some inquiries on our own inquiry
forms pages for spam. False positives are rare, but this still do
happen once in a great while. Since they are blocked right at the
email server end through our web host they don't even come to our
client side computer desktops in our junk mail folder. We can't even
see them in the email server junk mail folder, so there's always the
possibility of someone sending in a legitimate inquiry in our
contact form that doesn't go all the way through to where it should.
(Text verification does help to prevent the spammers, but apparently
some email setups with web hosts aren't perfect it getting all off
the good ones through.)

I've had instances where I would fill out a customer form on a
website, not hear back for days, follow up by phone, and hear from
customer service that they didn't have a record of it going through.
That's why I still make it a rule to do a follow up by phone, rather
than always assume the delay is due to poor customer service. I
encourage my own client prospects to call and leave a message just
as extra insurance that we received their questionnaire, so we have
our phone # included prominently in all customer service forms.

I agree that there are many cases of poor online customer service,
but always consider the possibility of honest mishaps.

Grant Crowell, Grantastic Designs
grantasticdesigns.com/blog


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From: Carolyn Ryals
Subject:  Pet Peeves About Commercial Web Sites

Ron Coble has brought up a very important point for all businesses
who are online and offline.  If there is no price on an item, it is
not for sale.  In the competitive world of the internet, web sites
that sell consumer products are under a lot of pressure to offer new
products.  As a result of this, they will post items on their site
as soon as they receive notice of them from the manufacturer when
they do not have details or pricing.  This creates confusion for the
consumer and the email staff at the retailer.

Some manufacturer's offer retailers products, the retailer
advertises it and after it is sold, the manufacturer tells the
retailer that it has been discontinued.  There are a number of
reasons for this and the most common is the manufacturer decided not
to make or stock it and did not tell the retailer.  The customer
thinks the problem is with the retailer when it is actually with the
manufacturer.  Sometimes the product is made and sent to the
retailer, it is defective and has to be returned. This can mean
several months for restocking of that product.

My web site was one of the first on the web when there were only
about 20,000 people online.  In the early days of the web, sending
an email could mean days, weeks or never getting a reply.  Most of
the web sites in those days, did not have the staff to answer emails
and the web was just a page of advertisement like you might see in a
magazine so there was some justification for their lack of response.

Most online businesses now have staff to handle email inquiries.
There is one notable difference, you now have to "register" to even
ask a question.  Why should a potential customer provide you with
their name, birth date, address, etc. if they only want to ask a
simple question? What is the web site going to do with all that
information?  Why do they need all that information to tell you the
cost of shipping an item or if it is in stock?  Caveat emptor, or
buyer beware, definitely applies here.

Carolyn Ryals
www.westernsilver.com


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From: John Wagner
Subject: Customer Service

> But, seriously, can anyone justify not answering
> a potential customer's request or waiting 3 days
> to do so and not post your prices on your web
> site - if so, I would be interested in hearing
> your justifications.
        - Ron Coble

Of course it cannot be justified but I think it is not a question of
justification, it is simple ignorance.  Some people just do not get
the point.

A local store where I live was doing the same thing, nice site,
lovely pictures, no prices.  When I went into the store I asked why
there were no prices he answered "We want the people to come into
the store or call on the phone so we can assess their true needs and
sell them something appropriate".  When I asked how long they were
doing this on the internet and how many actual inquiries they
actually had, he told me "we are on the internet a year but you are
the first one to come in". Duh!!

We all know the potential and actuality of doing business on the
internet but obviously these brick and mortar operations have no
clue.  Someone told them they should have a website so lo!  They
have a website.  To use it as the best selling tool of the
millennium does not occur to them.  I am sure no one even monitors
the emails, the web developer put in a link to the email but it goes
to a dead end, no one sees it much less knows how to access it or
forward it to someone who does.

It reminds me of a time when I was traveling in a third world
country by air.  The stewardess walked up and down the aisle
reaching into a bulk bag of peanuts and putting a half a dozen or so
into the hands of anyone who reached out.  She used her bare hand.
And pouring some warm watered down orange drink from a half gallon
container into two ounce cups and handing them to the passengers.
Well, airlines are supposed to give out peanuts and drinks so she
was giving out peanuts and drinks, convinced I am sure that her
airline was up to international standards.

When the costs to keep the website up and running and unproductive
reach an unacceptable level to the comptrollers of these companies,
they will either wise up or get off the net.

John Wagner
www.jewelex.com


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From: Michelle Tackabery
Subject: Customer service

Rob,

I can really understand both your frustration as a customer and your
frustration as a marketer. I know as a marketer, nothing ticks me
off more ROYALLY than to discover that the hard-won leads I have
spent my life trying to get are sitting in someone's inbox, being
ignored.

I had this experience on a website once. One form submission from a
potential customer had not been answered for three days, on a
website which promised we would get back to inquiries within "one
business day." The inquiry had been received on a Sunday night
(late) and was not returned until Wednesday night - late - with an
email, not a phone call. Needless to say, I lost it when I heard the
news! . . .

It turned out that this call center person was used to a phone
culture where people who call in are dealt with first, no matter
what the urgency of their situation was, and she had been routinely
putting off responding to internet inquiries that were text-based.
We immediately incentivized responding to internet inquiries, which
typically brought in ten times the dollars that phone inquiries
through other channels do. Things changed fast.

It could be a culture problem within the company, and not a simple
"they are lazy" problem. Of course I can't say for sure, but it's an
idea worth pursuing anywhere you have issues with customer service,
if you work in marketing. Find out what they are doing with your
leads! Just some general advice for anyone, I guess, would be: Make
friends with customer service and make it YOUR BUSINESS to change
things. Because you might be the only one who does!

Michelle Tackabery
http://www.michelletackabery.net


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