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Guest Moderator:                     Published by:
Nathan Holley                          LED Digest
nate, led-digest.com     http://www.led-digest.com
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February 18, 2008                    Issue no. 2592
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


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    --== Selling Customer Data ==--

        ~ Quaid Joher Surti
"...let me make it clear that he has the
option from his customers to share their data."

    --== Digital Signatures ==--

        ~ Mario Soavi
"Italy was the first European country to
adopt the digital signature as legal..."

    --== SEO Relevance Factors ==--

        ~ Jon Langley
"...with regards to SEO, what weight do
the keywords in the item description get?"


==== CONTINUING =================

    --== Wishin' or Workin' ==--

        ~ Peter D'Aprix
"Now how do you recommend we get our clients
to [understand]...?"

        ~ John Audette
"...many people out there think that a good
idea has some sort of intrinsic value..."


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From: Quaid Joher Surti
Subject: Data Cost

Dear LED'ers,

I have been a member of this newsletter for over several years and have
improved on my faculties in many areas from the information shared here.

One of my client raised a question lately asking about the cost of
database of his members if someone wishes to market to them. On the
onset, let me make it clear that he has the option from his customers to
share their data.

This data, as I am aware is 100% latest, positively inclined to accept
news and ads and are interested too.  My job is to look into the
following areas and report.

1.  Should such data be shared in a lot or on individual basis. My
client's preferential choice is to sell on individual basis depending
upon the individual interests of his customers.

2.  Should the entire data of an individual be provided to the
interested party?  Such information covers personal, educational,
family, financial and social. Or only that part of the information be
provided that is relevant to the interested party.

3.  How to market such offer and through what forum, website, newsletter
and user-groups?

4.  What kind of industries and entities would be interested to make use
of such data to their immediate advantage?

5.  How should we price our offer to the interested parties?

Do provide some valuable insight and information.  Thanks.

Quaid J.


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From: Mario Soavi
Subject: Digital Signatures

Dear Adam and LEDers,

I don't know if anybody knows that Italy was the first European country
to adopt the digital signature as legal in all the official
transactions. That was nine years ago, and from then on 3 million
certificates were issued and around 100 million were successfully
transmitted.

I feel this is a big flop, above all because there's no business model
related to the use of digital signatures.

I feel the same issue could be put in evidence for the Internet as a
whole, considering the very small numbers of certified sites. As we need
to buy anything on the Internet we trust those sites that use a secured
connection (but that's only a privacy add-on) and we don't feel the need
to have a contemporaneous site certification. I know some e-marketers
started to massively use digital signatures to fulfil the requirements
of some big ISPs, but even in this case the use of such certificates is
exploitable.

On the other hand, in the analogical world, any business meetings should
always start with the card exchange. Why is that not normal in a much
more indirect environment as the Internet?

I may be wrong but I feel that when two digital certificates meet we
could presume any relationship between their holders (being those people
or organizations) could start at a higher level of trust and confidence.
In the hypothetical business process from meeting to selling / buying,
those certificates put the relationship at a nearer point towards the
latest. Why there's no way to automatically manage those certificates?
Why they couldn't lead their holders to a different level of information
exchange (that could dramatically shorten the economical process)?

Thanks.
Mario Soavi
MarComm.info
http://marcomm.info


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From: Jon Langley
Subject: New Post - SEO

Firstly, Welcome Nathan... Good to see that Adam has a bit of assistance
when and where required. (maybe a bit late in saying this, but thought I
would make sure it was said/known.)

This is a question that has been "just recently" asked to me.. and in my
"infinite wisdom" answered, but decided to seek advice from this group.
Especially as various "rules" change and Google change there
algorithyms..

The Question was. "with regards to SEO, what weight do the keywords in
the ITEM DESCRIPTION get?"

My reply was....

"This is the order that 'search terms' are indexed/used/supplied.

"URL, Page Title, Keywords, Page Content (This includes the
description)."

My "small" question is... Does this seem the same to everyone else? Do
you agree? Disagree?

Either way, what do you use in relation to SEO... What do you put
priority on....

Jon Langley
http://www.Jons-All-Sorts.co.uk


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From: Peter D'Aprix
Subject: Labor

> One of the hardest challenges we search
> marketers face is not in the strategy, the
> overview, our ideas or our knowledge, it's
> in the EXECUTION.
    - Nathan Holley, LED 2591
    - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2006/190/

Dear Nathan

Could not agree more. Now how do you recommend we get our clients to not
only understand the hours of work and research involved and the
necessity of it in todays competitive internet market place, but that
they will have to pay for it with all those hours adding up?

Peter D'Aprix - Visual Communications
http://peterdaprix.com


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From: John Audette
Subject: Labor

Greetings...

Nathan said it a bit differently, but I agree with his comments about
wishin' vs. workin'. Here's what I had to say about it with #11 of the
Sweet 16:

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Principle 11: Ideas Are Only Sparks

"Having just a vision's no solution, everything depends on execution."
(lyrics from "Sunday in the Park with George")

This is probably the most obvious of the Sweet 16. After all, Thomas
Edison said it a long time ago, "Success is 1% inspiration and 99%
perspiration" (something my Papa Grogan was all too fond of quoting to
me when I was a little skipper).

But it's worth repeating -- and more importantly, observing. My
experience in running a major interactive agency is that many people out
there think that a good idea has some sort of intrinsic value -- and
they won't give you any details until you have signed a Non-Disclosure
Agreement (I have often thought that it would save a lot of time if we
all printed a tiny NDA on the backs of our business cards).

Well, a good idea *is* a spark, a place to get started. But that's it.
The value is all in the implementation, the thousands of little things
that when done properly add up to a significant cumulative result. God
is in the details (or, if you're a pessimist, the devil is in the
details).

You have to take those ideas and run with them, work them, flesh them
out, find great ways to use them. Implement, implement, implement. Don't
play the "Good Idea Game." You know, the one where you remark on
someone's success and say, "Big deal, I had that idea years ago." So
forget the NDAs. No one is going to steal your idea. The winners are too
busy implementing their own ideas to steal yours. And the losers don't
believe in implementation as it takes too much effort.

In my opinion we had a lot of good ideas in the building of Multimedia
Marketing Group and the Internet News Bureau. But the way I checked our
progress at the end of each day was by asking myself the following
question before I could go to bed: "What did I do to move MMG forward
today?"

So repeat after me: A good idea by itself isn't worth squat. One more
time: a good idea by itself isn't worth squat.
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Cheers,
John Audette
Sweet 16 - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/1286/174/


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