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Guest Moderator:                     Published by:
Adam Audette                           LED Digest
adam, led-digest.com     http://www.led-digest.com
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February 25, 2008                  Issue no. 2596
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....

====== NEW ======================

    <Moderator Comment>
        ~ Going to SMX

    --== 50 Questions to Grade Sites ==--

        ~ Jeremy Weiss
"...it has a great list of things to make
you think about your website objectively."

    --== Asian Company Selling Keywords ==--

        ~ Mary Findley
"[They're] wanting to sell me not only
domain names...but also keywords."

    --== Local Search for Small Business ==--

        ~ Viggie Bala
"Would like to hear how these localization
helps small business."


==== CONTINUING =================

    --== SEO Relevance Factors ==--

        ~ Tom Aman
"...a lot of the things that are thought necessary
for good rankings are actually myths."

        ~ Leon Simmons
"Google absolutely takes note of the
description meta tag..."


========= NEW =====================================

<Moderator Comment>

Greetings LEDers,

Looks like I'm back in the moderator's chair :) I've really enjoyed
having some time away - still reading the list of course but it's much
different as an observer.

I'll be traveling next week down to Santa Clara for the SMX conference,
put on by Danny Sullivan and friends ( http://searchmarketingexpo.com ).
I'm really looking forward to this conference. There are tons of great
people going, many of them friends and many I've yet to meet. The best
part of conferences is the networking, but at SMX there are at least
half a dozen sessions that look really interesting to me.

Of course I've also got a number of client projects to juggle and a few
conference calls, in addition to SMX (... not to mention the parties) so
I'll have to balance that out. I'd like to cover some of the conference
here in the LED, so I'll hold off and only publish issues today
(Monday), Wednesday and Friday. We'll be back to the regular program
again on Monday, March 3.

I think I'd also like to invite Nathan Holley back to moderate again -
provided he agrees. I like his style of moderating since it's so
different than my own.

One last link for you - read this article by Rand Fishkin. In it he
responds to a Michael Martinez piece called "The Thoughtful SEO's
Manifesto" with his "Brash SEO's Antifesto." The end result is a sort of
philosophical interchange between the two on what constitutes the
fundamentals of search engine optimization theory.

I probably just made it sound boring or confusing - trust me it's not.
It's really entertaining:
http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-brash-seos-antifesto

Have a productive week!

-Adam

PS - I'm on the hunt for a project management tool. There's one catch:
it can't be Basecamp. I've used Basecamp a lot... too much probably...
and would like to try something else. I like the minimal mindset
Basecamp uses, but need more functionality. One tool I'm experimenting
with is FogBugz.com, which is actually a tool for software teams, but I
think it can be creatively adapted for search marketing teams.

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From: Jeremy Weiss
Subject: 50 Questions to Evaluate Sites by

Came across an article today titled, "50 Questions to Evaluate the
Quality of Your Website" and thought I'd share. While I'm sure it's not
perfect it has a great list of things to make you think about your
website objectively.

http://www.searchenginejournal.com/50-questions-to-evaluate...

-Jeremy Weiss


-------- new post - new topic --------

From: Mary Moppins
Subject: Keyword Purchases

Hi Ledders,

This is a new one for me. There is an Asian company who is wanting to
sell me not only domain names such as goclean.asia etc but also the
keyword "goclean." They claim to have a holding company (Doxter Holdings
Limited) willing to pay $1400 for the keyword "goclean" and over $500
for 5 or 6 "goclean" Asian domain names. Of course I use the keyword
"goclean" all the time. Has anyone heard of such a thing as "buying" or
owning a keyword? It sounds to me like they are trying to extort money
from me. I didn't think you could "own" a keyword.

I don't think legally there is anything I can do to stop someone from
registering the domain name goclean.asia or goclean.cc or
goclean.com.cc. I just do not have the funds to purchase all the
possible endings for my domain name.

I'm not about to pay them this amount of money as they will only
continue to extort money from me but I would greatly appreciate any
insight you have.

Best,
Mary Findley
www.goclean.com


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-------- new post - new topic --------

From: Viggie
Subject: Google & Yahoo Local

Hi all,

The Google Local & Yahoo Local services are around for a while.  Does
anybody tried it?  Are they worthwhile on it's own?

Also, I came across Google Mobile Maps which lists local search results
integrated on local map for directions [www.google.com/gmm/]

Would like to hear how these localization helps small business.  And
also how it will affect the general search results.  Eager to know the
experiences and opinions from LEDers.

Cheers,
Viggie Bala
Helping websites to work
http://www.viggie.com


======== CONTINUING ===============================

From: Tom Aman
Subject: SEO relevance

There has been all kinds of discussion here about many SEO things. For
some interesting reading (and some points that are contradictory to some
*advice* given in LED), check the article "SEO Basics in 45 Minutes" by
Kalena Jordan. The article is a report on a 45 minute presentation by
Jill Whalen and can be found at:

http://www.sitepronews.com/archives/2008/feb/20.html

Basically, it says that a lot of the things that are thought necessary
for good rankings are actually myths.  Hope it provokes some good
discussions here.

Tom Aman
Aman Software
http://www.cyberspyder.com


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Leon Simmons
Subject: SEO relevance

> The DESCRIPTION meta tag is not used by any
> of the search engines for relevance scoring
> but it is certainly important for making a
> listing in search results more compelling
> and informative.
    - Michael Martinez, LED 2595
    - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2010/190/

This is not my experience.

Google absolutely takes note of the description meta tag and it most
certainly does affect the position of a page in the search results. I
have many hundreds of examples on a number of my websites where the
description tag has been used to attract the attention of Google -- and
not only does Google elevate the page in the search results, it
highlights the precise keywords / phrase in the description that has
been inputed by the Google user.

I would also question the long held theory that search engines ignore
keyword meta tags -- I have no doubt that a sophistcated outfit like
Google would use all means at their disposal to utilise any info that is
presented to their bots.

Cheers
Leon


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