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March 17, 2008                   Issue no. 2608
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


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    --== Retail Product Management Tools ==--

        ~ Alicia Allen
"We run several online clothing and accessories
stores and take our own photography."

    --== Filenames & Search Engines ==--

        ~ John Smart
"Would I benefit from calling the style
sheet file: internetdesign.com.css..."


==== CONTINUING =================

    --== Domain Parking ==--

        ~ Lee LeGrand
"This caught my attention and I would like
to acquire more information on this."

        ~ Ed Clark
"This really touches a nerve with me."

        ~ Tom Aman
"I wish Google would figure out a way to
eliminate all parked domains from the results."

    --== Success with Search Arbitrage ==--

        ~ Maty Matyszak
"Your behaviour might be impeccable, but you
might still be undone by the misdeeds of others..."

    --== Link Building Ideas ==--

        ~ Reg Charie
"...please forgive me when I state that you
should invest the $1200 in SEO help."


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From: Alicia Allen
Subject: New Product Process Management Tool

Hello Everyone,

We run several online clothing and accessories stores and take our own
photography.  We are finding the process of managing new product
additions to our website very inefficient.

For each product we add, we have to set it up in our inventory system,
set pricing, write a description, take the photography, send it to our
graphics guy, get it back, upload the graphics to the server and finally
make the product live.  The steps in this process are completed by
several different people.

We always have a long list of products that are being added, so that
queue has to be managed so that all the other steps are completed in the
right order.

My question is - has anyone found a good program or way of managing this
sort of "process" since it's like many "checklist" based processes out
there? The amalgamation of excel spreadsheets is burdensome and when I
looked online the only programs I saw allowed you to manage the
photography assets once they've been taken, but not to track the whole
process.  We would love to have an online workflow management system,
where we could replicate the same workflow for each new product and
prioritize them and allow people to mark their steps done as they are
completed.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Alicia Allen
www.historicalemporium.com


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From: John Smart
Subject: Filenames and Search Engines

The search engines read filenames; a page called contact.html will be
indexed more strongly as a contact page than 1.html.

But how far does this go?

I am finishing the code for a content management system, which builds
style sheets. Would I benefit from calling the style sheet file:
internetdesign.com.css

The bots will see that with every page on the site they parse. But would
they care?

Other than trial and error, I see no way to test this. I see reasons why
it would work, and why it would not. I see bots liking that I am using
my own css, but not caring what a style sheet is called (they have
enough to worry about anyway!)

John Smart
InternetDesign.com
A Human Touch in a Digital world.


======== CONTINUING ===============================

From: Lee LeGrand
Subject: Domain parking

Well done John - after many, many years reading this board, you've
gotten this lurker to post!)

> As I understand it, if you own a domain
> that is doing nothing at all, there are
> legal channels that others can use to
> acquire your domain name.
    - John Smart, LED 2607
    - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2022/190/

This caught my attention and I would like to acquire more information on
this.  So please expand on your knowledge or point me to some sources
for additional education.

I have quite a few domains that I have had parked on my server box for
quite sometime that are not active, but I have plans for them. And would
like not to have them "forced" away from me somehow.  Additionally, I
have some .org sites that I have had for many years, that some
"speculators" bought the .com for that have never been used and I have
been unsuccessful in even opening a dialog with them regarding purchase.

I've always thought I was "safe" by having them on my server box and
shied away from what I considered a "crappy" practice of useless
directory listings that usually have nothing to do with what I am
searching for.  Perhaps my thinking needs re-alignment and I know most
of the board who posts here is not reluctant to voice an opinion.

As always the depth and breadth of information and knowledge on this
board is amazing.  Thanks for sharing.

Lee LeGrand


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From: Ed Clark
Subject: Domain Parking

On the subject of domain parking. This really touches a nerve with me.
As a developer and hosting company, I can not tell you how often I find
a small company that has not used a reliable hosting company (I remind
my clients when their domain name needs to be renewed and many times
have paid the fee just so they have a chance to keep the name in the
event they have forgotten to renew) and has lost their domain name to
some greed monger, who really can't use the domain name for anything
else except to park it an wait for people looking for the old site to
visit. There... amazingly is someone using Google Adsense trying to
drive people to similar sites for a couple of bucks.

One of my current clients: www.james-ranch.com lost his domain name when
the cable company he was hosted thru sold to another cable company. So
now Mike James, who owns a legitimate Ranch and has regular customers,
has  to use a dot com name with a hyphen. Meanwhile, his other domains
names are held for ransom, by someone wanting to get a big payday to
sell the domain name back to Mike or make the few bucks from the parked
domain.

I personally own many domain names and they are legitimate. I have no
problem with an ethical manner of parking a domain. And if that domain
name draws traffic, to allow people looking to have the available
similar sites show up when they visit the site. But for those who hold
domain names hostage, I don't have much good to say about you. Remember
that for the most part, clients don't even understand the concept of
parking a domain and making a profit from it. Most are just small
business' wanting to use the web to help their customers find them and
get information to their customers

I had no idea myself how much some people make parking domains. It has
been a wake up call to see how many for profit places there are to park
domains.

My final remark is just obtain the domain names you park for profit in
an ethical manner.

Ed Clark


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From: Tom Aman
Subject: Domain parking

> I brought up domain parking in my original
> post in LED 2604 (
> http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2019/190/ )
> about the fact that certain domains
> disappeared from Google after parking them
> with a parking service.
>
> They are indeed gone as when I do a
> site:mydomain.com at Google, nothing shows
> up in Google. I think I'll do what Chris
> Nielsen suggested and move a couple of them
> to another parking company to see what
> happens.
    - Steven Birk, LED 2607

Personally, I wish Google would figure out a way to eliminate all parked
domains from the results.  There is nothing more annoying than to be
doing an information search and to have 5 or 6 of the first 10 listings
point to parked domains.  Usually the only content on these parked pages
are links to other sites that may or may not pertain to the subject in
question - either way they usually just waste my time and make it more
difficult to locate the actual information for which I am searching.

Tom Aman
http://www.cyberspyder.com


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From: Maty Matyszak
Subject: Arbitrage

> My business strategy is that visitors are
> the ultimate commodity of value online.
> Whoever makes most per visitor can pay most
> to sources of visitors. I can make money
> from visitors through PPC or through
> commission on room bookings made by
> visitors from me online.
    - Shaun Johnston, LED 2607

Hi Shaun

Pronouncements from the Googleplex are always welcome, as Google has,
let's say, issues with transparency. I understand that you are using
Adwords to drive traffic to your site, which is exactly what Adwords is
designed for. What is slightly less clear is whether you are using
Adsense to move these visitors on. If you have your own advertisers on
the site or are selling someone else's products there, then this is a
straightforward business model. However, with Adsense there has been a
problem where users clicking on an advertisement have been taken to
another site with further Adsense advertisements and no product, and a
click on one of these ads leads to another site with advertisements ...
Users don't like getting jerked around in this way, and tend to bail
quickly - and not click any more Google ads.

Note carefully Google's warning that they are watching for complaints
about 'websites' of particular types. So its not just you. Your
behaviour might be impeccable, but you might still be undone by the
misdeeds of others who force Google to clean up despite collateral
damage to your business model. Over on webmasterworld.com there has been
a lot of discussion recently about long-time arbitragers who have been
advised that they are no longer welcome in the Adsense programme, though
AFAIK they still can use Adwords.

Maty Matyszak


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From: Phil Chave
Subject: New domain

> Any other things I should look for when
> moving? I will be keeping the hitman23.com
> domain and hopefully will be able to
> redirect from the daemen.edu domain to the
> new one. Is this a good way to ensure that
> I don't lose any visitors?
    - Dan Curtis, LED 2606

Hi Dan

I think, when you're forced to change hosts and therefore servers, you
will risk losing your position, as least for a cycle or two.

I'll probably get shot down in flames by the purists, but practically, I
think I'd move the hitman to a low cost server like, Freeola, and
redirect the daemen pages to the new ones.

That will mean temporarily having a duplicate site, but not entirely, as
the hitman site will navigate internally with its own named links.  It
will only be the text that is the same.

Do a manual submission to the major search engines (google, yahoo and
msn) and wait for one of them to pick you up by doing ego searches.
Then, redirect the daeman pages to the new site.  Wait for another
cycle.  By this time your position should recover to somewhere near
where it was and you can then drop the old domain.  This may take up to
3-6 months.

I don't work for Freeola, but I have nearly 40 domains with them, mine
and clients.  You're on a shared server with a lot more domains than
probably one of the expensive host packages, but in the last 8 years
I've never not been able to find my sites online and live.  The control
panel is easy to use.  As for pricing, hosting is free if you renew your
domain when you transfer in, and continue to renew with them.  The only
drawback is you have to use a direct connection to freeola to upload
your pages, which generates revenue from the low cost phone call.  If
your ISP is someone else and you only upload irregularly, you can just
have a dial in connection to do that.

All the best, Phil
www.distanthealer.co.uk


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From: Reg Charie
Subject: Links

> If you had $1200 annually to spend on
> directory subscriptions, AdWords which
> directories would you choose?
> Specifically, is Yahoo worth it?
    - Naomi Havard, LED 2605
    - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2020/190/

Naomi, please forgive me when I state that you should invest the $1200
in SEO help. Your pages look like they have been written for the search
engines with a specific keyword ratio in mind (8%?). How many times do
you need to tell the reader that this is for fundraising / fundraisers?
Surely not the 21 times you have it on the main page.

You said you have done the wordtracker thing but how do you arrive at
"free charity donation thermometer" as your primary keyword phrase, and
how did you miss putting fundraising and fundraisers into the meta tags?

There is a lot of SEO that could be done for your site.

Reg Charie
http://DotCom-Productions.com


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