| LED Digest 2629: Twitter-dee, Twitter-dumb |
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The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" Data > Information > Knowledge > Wisdom http://www.AudetteMedia.com : the LED's Publisher Boutique Internet Marketing: SEO, SEM, Social Media http://www.SEOToolSet.com/training/ : the LED's Premier Sponsor Bruce Clay's Search Engine Optimization Training & Certification ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam, led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com .............................................. April 21, 2008 Issue no. 2629 .............................................. .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ==== CONTINUING ================= --== To Google You Are A Spammer ==-- ~ Dan Thies "It's hard to consider Aaron [Wall] as anything close to objective when it comes to Google." --== Is Twitter Productive? ==-- ~ Mike Valentine "Those 140 characters in a 'Tweet' can be powerful coming from interesting people..." ~ Jeff Hinds "Provident Partners' has a great example of a corporate use of Twitter." ~ Al Toman "...these social sites exclude me and other potential socialites by design." ======== CONTINUING =============================== From: Dan Thies Subject: Spammer > This is why some of Google's editorial > judgement seems so arbitrary and lame. The > small player innovates, gets crushed by > Google for being creative and innovative, > then the monolithic corporations uses the > same techniques to an industrial scale and > are somehow better for borrowing/stealing > the techniques. How does that process > foster web innovation? - Aaron Wall - http://www.seobook.com/to-google-you-are-a-spammer It's hard to consider Aaron as anything close to objective when it comes to Google. Part of why he's so bitter about Google is that they've been so effective in thwarting his own spam over the years, and he's been very slow to own up to it: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/anti-google-claims-to-reply-or-not/#comment-116573 Dan Thies -------- new post - new topic -------- From: Mike Valentine Subject: Twitter > Twitter is abuzz with many seeing it as a > pure time waster and others finding real > productivity. > > Following a recent theme on several other > email discussion threads, I am curious who > on this list is actively using Twitter and > if you've found it to be productive, how > so? - Lee Odden, LED 2627 - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2042/190/ Loved the question from Lee Odden in Wednesdays LED. After I saw it, I asked those in my Twitter Network what their favorite type of Twitterer is. My favorites are those who post interesting links to new web services, offer one sentence reviews of movies, books, restaurants and software. I also love to hear about those traveling and interesting experiences they have. Following those types on Twitter can bring a few gems a day to you and your business. Here's a good example of using Twitter very effectively for business: http://tinyurl.com/6q7esf [darmano.typepad.com] There are those that use the web interface who apparently can't resist the question on the "Home" page above the text box asking "What are you doing?" and feel compelled to answer that question when they are doing the most inane things, like routine chores or whining about stuff they don't want to do. Those types can definitely make you feel like you are wasting your time on Twitter. But the real valuable stuff on Twitter comes from those who use twitter to tweet about it when they do extraordinary things, read (or write) extraordinary blogs, uncover and break unbelievable stories, go amazing places and do interesting things, and those people offer incredible insights when they Twitter. Those 140 characters in a "Tweet" can be powerful coming from interesting people with valuable things to say. I try to do the same when I can - and try measure up to those I follow and offer something interesting to my own channel. There are a bunch of applications and online tools built to work with Twitter that make it much more useful - my favorite is Twhirl - which makes Twitter a much richer experience. There are dozens of plug-ins, add-ons and web services that make it very cool, due to the open API. Those who find it a waste of time can tune out, but if you follow the right people (and companies) you can enrich your life and your business. I'd love to connect with a bunch of LED'ers I respect. I already followed most of those on the list Adam posted in LED yesterday and added a couple more. Thanks Adam - loved your Tweet pointing out the Zappos use of Twitter Thursday. Mike Valentine http://twitter.com/RealitySEO -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Jeff Hinds Subject: Twitter Lee you pose a great question, and like you and Adam I'm curious to learn more about how others use Twitter. When I'm not reading http://TopRankBlog.com and LED I use Twitter to promote some of the blog posts I think are beneficial to other internet marketers. I don't use it daily as other business issues take priority unless I'm promoting a company, product or service I believe in or I'm a team member on. Provident Partners' has a great example of a corporate use of Twitter. Read this interview of Amy Worley Director of Digital Marketing for H&R Block are active members in the Twitter community offering suggestions and responses to people that tweet about H&R Block of taxes. http://tinyurl.com/53j33v [providentpartners.net/blog] Best, Jeff Hinds http://twitter.com/jeffhinds -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Al Toman Subject: twitter First, I personally acknowledge that the social connection, networking, whatever you want to call it certainly has marketing value. There is no question about that. The Internet's first social group was the physicists, as I understand it. Considering, the INTENT of the INTERNET was to network, socially, on a strict academia basis, "Let's talk nuclear physics". Then, this network got all garbaged up because all types of individuals entered into the Internet World. Considering, Sir Berners-Lee invented the W.W.W. to use the network, Internet, as a big book of "information". And now the vendors, marketers took over. Heck, even well-known "STARS" do "MySpace". Gimme a break~! Tamar proclaims: > been getting too many random friend > requests on facebook. again, here's my > take: if i don't know you personally, i > probably won't accept. - http://twitter.com/tamar/statuses/790576536 Well, Tamar, you won't be hearing from me. Your choice. Many of the people that I know, can hardly manipulate the mouse or have NO DESIRE to do computer. Some are well established business people (some are my clients, some are associates, some are family, etc) who understand the value of the computer, Internet, web sites, etc, however, who have no desire to DO the Internet. If a SEO can't figure out the W.W.W. in less than an hour and agree upon it, then how do you expect a non-computer person to even WANT to understand the Internet beyond, email, ecards, and other meaningless "stuff"!?! You guys have to remember, just because you eat BYTES for breakfast, lunch, and supper, that there are a WHOLE LOTTA folk out there that eat Corn Flakes, sandwiches, and spaghetti, instead. Twitterly-dee. Twitterly-dumb. Can you imagine if I mention "Twitter" to them? Consequently, these SOCIAL SITES EXCLUDE me and other potential socialites by design. Yes. I added a few to my FaceBook, Linked Out, and whatever else of those other dozen social sites that I signed up on, but I'm not actively seeking to do this. Hence, there is little value. I DID find Pandora.com on Twitter which was a good find. However, that was purely a random "by accident". Not an EFFICIENT way to weed through the garbage and find information. Personally, for "friend" value, I've learned that "friends" can be counted on one hand or so by the time they haul your [a] into your grave. Marketing value may be another story. So, when I'm ready to market my web site, if it is suggested that I Twitter to Market, then, I'll need to hire a Twitterer. Twitter Away, Al Toman find a web designer studio9 web design (c) Copyright 1995-2008 Orange Wheel, LLC. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy." - Rabindranath Tagore |
