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June 12, 2008                       Issue no. 2662
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


==== CONTINUING =================

    --== Astrological SEO [was: Standards] ==--

         ~ Maty Matyszak
"...Saturn is moving out of the house of Aries, so now
might be time to terminate that black-hat SEO campaign..."

    --== Monetizing an Established Site ==--

        ~ Chris Nielsen
"...I would go with Google AdSense and perhaps
also try to sell some ads on your site directly..."

    --== SEO Standards ==--

        ~ Michael Linehan
"Just what is it...that you want to see that
you haven't seen yet?"


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From: Maty Matyszak
Subject: SEO astrology

> But I would hardly label what I'm
> doing as a form of astrology.
    - Shari Thurow, LED Digest 2659
    - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2074/190/

SEO is not astrology - well, it may not be for you, but some people have
been running their SEO campaigns on astrological principles with great
success for some years now. Normally I would not debase the art by
giving a general prediction, but since this process has been wantonly
attacked in this digest (shame on you Adam!), I shall give a few tips to
restore the Karmic balance.

Leo websites - as the sun moves to Virgo, do a keyword check on your
pages, be fussy, and make sure that the keyword-to-text ratio is exact.
Jupiter will smile benignly on the results.

Talking of planets, Saturn is moving out of the house of Aries, so now
might be time to terminate that black-hat SEO campaign, especially as
Mars in Orion says the authorities are taking an interest.

Gemini, your mirrored site may be attracting the interest of an unwanted
minor search engine bot, but this will cease when Mercury becomes
ascendant.

Taurus, remember July is a great month for stuffing your meta tags,
whilst Sagittarius sites now need to be bold and move their adwords
campaigns into the content network.

Finally all should remember that Pluto, God of wealth is in the
descendant, and work hard to maximize your search engine visibility.

We regret that due to demand we cannot give individual readings for your
website. However details of our service can be found at
StarEnergyOrganization.info (what do you mean, you can't find it?!)

Mystic Maty
www.knowyourcat.org


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From: Chris Nielsen
Subject: Advertising model

> For a bunch of reasons, we think going to a
> free-content/advertising model has a lot of
> potential... How do we go about trying to
> determine how much revenue we'd be able to
> generate?
    - Barrett Rossie, LED 2661
    - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2076/190/

It's very hard to give you a good answer, because it depends on many
factors like will you use network advertising, affiliate links, or try
to get advertisers directly?

Given that your site has a number of topics and some that can command
nice bid prices, I would go with Google AdSense and perhaps also try to
sell some ads on your site directly if you want to take the trouble with
that.

I can give you a rough idea of how much you may make from AdSense. I
have two sites, a directory and an information site both with a lot of
content on a lot of different topics. The directory had page impressions
last month of 117,114 and generated $420. The information site had
114,976 impressions and generated $285.

I think this is average for sites that don't have a specific topic and
if we spent time working on the optimization the ad placements I think
we could do much better. We have started using some of the Google CPA
ads but have not yet seen much yet. Those do hold greater promise for
increased revenue since the payout can be much larger that the max of $2
a click from regular AdSense that we have seen.

We have a number of free content sites and they all do quite well, so I
think you are on the right track with what you are thinking. I would
suggest trying different ad networks to see which works best on your
site, and also consider selling text link ads using a service like
LinkWorth.com. On one of our sites we make more per month from link ads
than we do from Google.

Good Luck,
Chris Nielsen


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From: Michael Linehan
Subject: SEO standards

Hi Al,

You have two frequent requests: "show me the math" and "show me the
money". Neither request is concrete, specific, or easy to answer.

For the math of Google, Yahoo and MNS, no-one has the math but them.
Optimization is done by experimentation, observation, modification - as
is most marketing. If there is other math you want, I don't understand
what it is.

For the money, what money are you talking about? My clients are not
going to open their books to you so you can believe I've produced
results for them. Nor are they going to open their site analytics so you
can see the results. If you mean results-based payment, that you want to
see a large amount of money before paying anything --- well, you'll not
get that in most marketing. I doubt you'll find many marketers, offline
or online, willing to work on that basis, especially for very small
contracts.

In spite of our emails off-list, I still don't understand what you want
to see, because your answers and postings are always very complex.
Interesting... but complex!  Please give a simple answer. No stories. No
comparison with your constructing a search engine, or industries you
have participated in. No reiteration of what others have said. Just what
is it --- concretely, specifically and *very simply* --- that you want
to see that you haven't seen yet?

Michael Linehan, Marketing Alchemy
www.marketing-alchemy.com


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