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June 16, 2008                       Issue no. 2663
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


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    --== The New iPhone ==--

        ~ Michael Linehan
"...the iPhone led the way in bringing
real websites to your mobile."


==== CONTINUING =================

    --== SEO Standards ==--

        ~ Malcolm Bailey
"...SEO's who do research can discover things
that will positively change a clients rankings."

        ~ Tom Aman
"I expect SEO is much like programming."


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From: Michael Linehan
Subject: iPhone

Why the iPhone isn't Just Another Phone

The new iPhone is on July 11th - now with Enterprise support built-in.
This little device has already changed the mobile smartphone game. In
North America, the first generation, one-model iPhone is second only to
all RIM's Blackberrys added together! It dramatically outsells all
Windows Mobile smartphones. And at the World Mobile Congress in
Barcelona, last year, the industry was warned to get its act together on
interface design, or be left in the dust. Since then, we have seen huge
strides by other companies to catch up with many iPhone functions and
its usability. But this second generation iPhone will only leap further
ahead.

Full Exchange support out of the box - for Mac AND Windows. Push email,
contacts and calendars, and remote wipe. And for people not on
enterprise networks, we have the new Mac and Windows service - MobileMe.
It's like Exchange for the rest of us, with all those push email and
calendaring functions.

Visual voicemail. 3G. GPS.  A big push on other third-party application
support, e.g. Salesforce, Associated Press. Yes, various other phones
can do some of these - most notably the Blackberry.  But most smartphone
functions simply don't get used, because they are too difficult or too
buried.

The iPhone magic is in having these functions combined with Apple's
legendary ease-of-use.  And the iPhone led the way in bringing real
websites to your mobile. No more stunted WAP sites. The real Web --- on
the go. Analytics show web browsing useage enormously higher on the
iPhone than other smartphones, because it is so extraordinarily easy.

The first wave of transformation in computing was the development of
desktop computers. The iPhone's ease of use and breadth of function
combine to give a new device that some writers tout as the beginning of
the second wave of transformation - lightweight, pervasive, in-your-
pocket computing.

And the price for the 8GB model - just $199 US.  Whether you are
enterprise or micro-business, the game-changing iPhone is worth a
serious look.

Michael Linehan, Marketing Alchemy
www.marketing-alchemy.com

Disclaimer: The author does not hold any Apple stock nor sell Apple
products or services.


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From: Malcolm Bailey
Subject: SEO Standards

Hi Al [Toman],

I think I've found a page that pretty much supports some of your arguments and also supports some of those LEDers arguing against you...

Aside from that it's an interesting tip.

http://tinyurl.com/625plp [seomoz.org]
Summary: Unwritten Google rule: Don't End URLs in .0

That's supporting your "We can't know exactly whats going on in a search
engine" argument from a few posts ago, while at the same time providing
real evidence that SEO's who do research can discover and affect things
that will positively change a clients rankings.

Now just to find a link to show you the money...

Cheers,
Malcolm Bailey


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From: Tom Aman
Subject: SEO standards

> While it may indeed be possible to use
> Numerology in SEO, the prospect of
> assigning numbers to letters in a domain
> name...
>
> ... I can tell you from my personal
> experience a couple of years ago with
> extensive testing that Google was only
> indexing about 100k of any page. We found
> that content beyond that would not be found
> in the index.
    - Chris Nielsen, LED 2661
    - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2077/190/

I hope you (and Shari and others) realize that when I suggested SEO
might well be part numerology that it was said with tongue firmly in
cheek.  My real point was that it is difficult, if not impossible, to
come up with provable hard facts for search engines.  In addition, while
the concentration seems to be on doing SEO for Google placement, there
are other engines out there and, since they probably use slightly
different methods for placement, it is difficult to do SEO for a page
that will make all of them happy.  At that point, "numerology" or
"astrology" or ??? comes into it - after doing everything based on what
is known (or assumed or general knowledge or guessed at), the
optimizer's experience (or intuition or bright ideas or flair) get added
to the mix to complete the task.

The software to index text documents has been around for a long time and
is not particularly difficult to write (although writing really
efficient indexing software does take some flair).  But the details of
the indexing method and the importance of various factors and which ones
to include are bound to vary between engines.

I expect SEO is much like programming. There are tons of competent
programmers out there who can produce very serviceable code but there
are only a limited number of really expert outstanding programmers who
have a flair for doing the impossible and producing really spectacular
software.  Their work follows the same basic rules as most other
programmers but they just have a better "feel" for the computer and what
it can be made to do, often doing something really innovative in their
coding that the average programmer would never think of or be willing to
try.

If you asked them to quantify how they do it, they would not be able to
tell you.  I expect the SEO world is similar - lots of competent people
who can do a really good serviceable job and a select few who can work
wonders - and would not be able to tell you exactly how they do it.

Regarding Chris's comment on the 100K limit, I did find info that was a
couple of years old (April 28th 2006) that indicated a Yahoo limit of
210 KB, a Google limit of 600 KB, and a 1.1MB limit for MSN.  Other
comments indicated that Google had since removed (changed?) that limit.

Tom Aman


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