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July 17, 2008                       Issue no. 2682
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


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    --== Domain Name Scam from China ==--

        ~ Eva Rosenberg
"So just a double warning..."


==== CONTINUING =================

    --== White or Dark Backgrounds? ==--

        ~ Kathy Burger-Johnson
"I was 'scolded' by my shopping cart tech
for having a soft nautical background..."

        ~ Michael Linehan
"'Like' or even 'Love' is not answering
the right question."

        ~ Malcolm Fitzgerald
"...you can have the best of both worlds, if
you place a light background into a dark frame."

        ~ David Chapman
"...this site is NOT about sales but your
points were well taken."


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From: Eva Rosenberg
Subject: Post - Domain Name Scam

Hi LEDers,

Yesterday, I got this odd e-mail:

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Dear Sir/Madam,

We are Beijing Erimart Network Service Co, Ltd which is the domain name
register center in China. We received a formal application from a
company who is applying to register "taxmama" as their domain name and
Internet keyword on July13, 2008. Because this involves your company
name or trade mark so we inform you in no time. If you consider these
domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is
necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon.

Kind Regardss,

Email: [delted]
Beijing Erimart Network Service Co, Ltd
www.erimart.com
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Visiting their site, being curious about their fees, I couldn't quite
get their domain search page to work. So I looked up the master China
registrar. This company was not on their list of approved registrars.

Running their e-mail URL through Google led me to a discussion about
Chinese domain scams -

http://successfulsoftware.net/2008/04/19/chinese-domain-scam/

Just thought you might want to watch out for this. Some people seem to
have been getting these messages for a while. This is my first one. It
appears they are scouring the US Trademark files.

So just a double warning:

1) Beware
2) Don't waste your precious time - just file it under scams.

Once upon a time, your Humble Guide,

Eva Rosenberg, EA & TaxNerd
www.taxmama.com
www.homebusinesstaxcuts.com


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From: Kathy Burger-Johnson
Subject: Backgrounds

> I re-designed 64picks.com site back in
> April and it now has a black background.
> However, 12% of visitors have complained
> that it is a strain on their eyes to go
> back to sites that have a white background
> (the majority of sites).
    - David Chapman, LED 2680
    - http://www.led-digest.com/content/view/2095/190/

Honestly, the white background for some sites is necessary, but when you
are working with the content you have, it looks right. I was "scolded"
by my shopping cart tech for having a soft nautical background on my
site -- but my site deals with lighthouses, so it fits.

Kathy Burger-Johnson
http://www.accentslights.com


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From: Michael Linehan
Subject: Backgrounds

> A Black or White Background?

Hi David,

There will always be some people who will like anything. You could
probably find a few who like huge embossed buttons and some others who
like Flash splash pages. So that fact that some people like your dark
background is, by itself, irrelevant. "Like" or even "Love" is not
answering the right question.

Everything I have read on the topic says that dark print on a light
background is much better for marketing, in the measurement that most
ultimately matters - higher response (buy, phone, subscribe... whatever
'response' might be, for a given site). For ongoing service delivery,
the dark on light ease of use is also a critical factor.

For most people most of the time, dark on light is easier to read -
therefore they read more - therefore they get more of your vital
marketing information - and they want to use your site more - and they
want to recommend it more. For what it's worth, with this sample of one
whose eyesight is good, I'm looking at your site now, and I won't even
try to read it. It is waaaay too much strain. I think studies show there
are many more people like me than like those who love this design.

One would think that Apple, Tiffany and Aston Martin have *some* idea
what they are doing in using dark on light.

Michael Linehan, Marketing Alchemy
www.marketing-alchemy.com


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From: Malcolm Fitzgerald
Subject: Backgrounds

Hi David,

The use of a dark background gives the site a lot of impact BUT ITS A
BIT LIKE TYPING IN ALL CAPS.

My feeling is that your site content would be easier to read if it were
on a white background. However, you can have the best of both worlds. if
you place a light background into a dark frame, so you get the impact of
the dark background and the easy to read of black on white. Here's an
example from one of your competitors: http://www.abc.net.au/news.

> My question is should I provide a different
> version of the site for marketing purposes?
> My target audience range is 18 - 55 year
> olds and surprisingly, persons over 40
> loved the design as it "easy on the eyes!"

The cones in their eyeballs are dying. They'll be wearing beige and
putting bright coloured highlights into their hair too. However, this is
good information. Why don't you provide several different style sheets
and let them choose the one that suits them. That way everyone wins.
There are plenty of stylesheet switcher scripts on the the net.

Malcolm Fitzgerald


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From: David Chapman
Subject: Backgrounds

Hi Rob Tillett & Martyn Gay,

Thanks for your input and replies! Please bear in ming that over 100,000
people used the site (www.64picks.com) this past year and that 12%
wanted a change. After reading your thoughts Dark -vs- light, I noticed
how often you all mentioned sales. Please understand that this site is
NOT about sales but your points were well taken.

Concerning redesigning the site color scheme... The site is 100% CSS
based so I created (and still testing) a feature that lets each visitor
the ability to pick their own color scheme (like google adsense does)
and display their choice upon their next visit. I took much interest in
your comment about the grey on black contrast although my visitors
elected to have grey instead of white. (We have surveys running all the
time.)

During the next couple of months I will read and test "Ogilvy on
Advertising" theories and post back user comments. A google search
turned up a lot of sites and I also suggest that the Leon Simmons's of
the "this is what we learned and did back in the 1960s" pull up a chair
and read. Leon Simmons is from the U.K., mainly writes furniture
articles, and actually does not own nor develop web sites so how would I
expect him to advice on a "American based NCAA" site. The only two sites
like this one are yahoo, CBS and ESPN. (They do not provide the features
I have built and I doubt they will.) I am MAINLY a programmer (20 years)
and have been web designing since '96.

One really should understand that this type of site is unique as the
majority of the site will ONLY be used for 6 weeks out of the year
(March and April). The remainder of the year will be visitors and
members that love and support their school and university by blogging
about it. The photo gallery and soon to debut "facebook" and "youtube"
like sections / features will also help to keep the site "sticky"...

David Chapman


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