| LED Digest 2145: Cheap Hits |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" Data > Information > Knowledge > Wisdom pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam, led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com .............................................. April 24, 2006 Issue no. 2145 .............................................. .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ==== NEW ======================== <Moderator Comment> --== Site Search ==-- ~ Waitman Gobble "Perhaps you should consider using AJAX..." ~ Joseph Taylor "I have...created what I call a 'blended' search..." --== How Does BuyHitsCheap Work? ==-- ~ Binky Lopez "How do they send 10,000 visitors to a website?" ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Duplicate Content ==-- ~ Dr. Mani Sivasubramanian "I did some research into the topic of 'duplicate content'..." ~ Scott Marino "My take would be to let the entire site be indexed." ~ Brad Waller "...I would think that the content would not really be identical..." ~ Chris Nielsen "...there is a lot of misunderstanding about the term ['duplicate content']." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Help with Backups ==-- ~ Richard Graham ~ Alberto Rodriguez Duque ~ Michael Linehan ======== NEW ===================================== <Moderator Comment> Greetings LEDer, Last Friday I asked you about the archives on the LED site and received some useful feedback. I'll post a few of the responses in today's issue. The consensus seems to be that there might not be a duplicate content problem after all. I'll let you read today's issue for the details. Check out the posts by Waitman and Joseph post below. Both were commenting about the LED archives, but I thought site search would make an interesting topic, especially in light of AJAX and other developing technologies. Viggie Bala posted about AJAX in issue 2123 and there was some discussion (see "The Javascript Comeback & AJAX"), but it might be worth re-visiting this topic in more detail. Any thoughts? Also, Binks is asking about the site BuyHitsCheap. The question posed is interesting, really: how does this site work? Learning the details may help reveal why sites such as these -- which claim easy solutions to site traffic -- are often poor choices. Have a great week, Adam ------------------------- From: Waitman Gobble Subject: Site Search Hello Adam, Perhaps you should consider using a JavaScript AJAX technique for the section that you believe will receive the most human visitors and plain HTML for the section that's going to be indexed. Your site could set an example. Best Regards, Waitman Gobble -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Joe Taylor Subject: Site search You might want to look at my solution for searching a large site. I have installed multiple search engine software and created what I call a "blended" search, showing five results from each area and allowing people to drill down in a given area. Also, the software I used allows for showing "snippets" of how the words are used, in context, to help them find what they want quicker. Without Google-type search technology, this was a good way to let find what they want, quicker. Here is the link to one search for the word "test". http://www.powderandbulk.com/search.php?q=test Very Truly Yours, Joseph Taylor Subscribe to our weekly newsletter for the professional http://www.powderandbulk.com/ -------- new post - new topic -------- From: Binky Lopez Subject: How Does BuyHitsCheap.com work? I recently stumbled across Buyhitscheap.com which promises to deliver 10,000 "guaranteed unique visitors" to a website for only $12.50.. It seems like a scam to me but I'd like to hear what you experts know about this. How do they send 10,000 visitors to a website? How does their system or scheme work? Is this something worth trying? I just can't shake the feeling that it sounds too good to be true and to be avoided at all costs. Please advise. Thanks! Binks Lopez ======== CONTINUING =============================== From: Dr. Mani Sivasubramanian Subject: Duplicate content Adam, this doesn't answer your question directly, but hopefully will help. When I launched a web-based tool, "Make Content Unique" in January, I did some research into the topic of 'duplicate content' - and summarized what I found, along with some links to more in-depth content, on a section of my site: http://www.makecontentunique.com/duplicate-content.htm Dr. Mani Sivasubramanian Customize Your PLR Articles - Quickly, Easily http://www.makecontentunique.com -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Scott Marino Subject: Duplicate content My take would be to let the entire site be indexed. The search engine indexing algorithms use many factors to rate / rank a page for inclusion, on of which is keyword and phrase density. A page of an issue on a date has many topics and will be scored differently than a page that has a thread that spanned several issues. While the overall content is the same, the pages are much different and would be ranked differently. I highly doubt Google or the others would penalize you for letting the entire site be indexed. It's likely that they have already accounted for this in their algorithms. You may even want to start creating a sitemap for Google (Google the term sitemap) since the site content will change almost daily. It's a way of getting them the information faster. Regards, Scott Marino www.webundies.com -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Brad Waller Subject: Duplicate content I'm no SEO expert, but I would think that the content would not really be identical if it was being listed through different paths. An archive of an issue is different from a thread on one topic. While some of the text will be the same, the page as a whole will be very different. I don't know if you want to go to the trouble of cataloging every post, but I could see a database where each post is a unique entry that is tagged with relevant keywords covering the topic discussed. You could even allow readers to tag posts as they read them to make it easier and faster to get the job done. Then a search could be performed and it could pull up posts that have tags that match based on topic or the name of the contributor. Remember some of the keys, let your users provide the content - or in this case, the tags - and everything is a lot easier. Brad Waller Manage and Sell your own site advertising http://adjungle.com waller, adjungle.com -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Chris Nielsen Subject: Duplicate content Since you are extracting parts of the original publications, I would not worry about "duplicate" content, since there is a lot of misunderstanding about the term. What I have seen over and over again is that "duplicate content" is not a problem, but "duplicate sites" are. It is expected that some content is going to be so good that it will appear on many, many sites. I don't see things like press releases, news, articles, and other things have problems because they are not unique. In this case, since the pages will not be duplicates, I don't think you have anything to worry about. And I feel you will be denying your site it's full potential by the addition of those robots tags. Thank you, Chris Nielsen www.domainincubation.com ==== BILLBOARD =================================== From: Richard Graham Subject: Backups One back-up tip is to save all your data and email folder to a separate partition. Twice now I've had to re-install laptops due to a messed up C Drive. Both times the computer gave me the option of not deleting my D drive so I didn't lose all my data only the installed programmes. I also tried saving my email folder to a removable 1 Gb flashcard, but Outlook Express didn't seem to like that. Be genki, Richard Graham -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Alberto Rodriguez Duque Subject: backup I have a PC and a Laptop, just recently found www.beinsync.com which keeps syncronized up to 5 to 15 computers, which is a form of backup. It is free for 30 days. Alberto Rodriguez Duque -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Michael Linehan Subject: Backups > Assuming that you have legal copies of all your software, > it can always be reinstalled so the only thing that really > needs to be backed up is your data. The result of all this > is that I can do a complete backup of my data in under > an hour. - Tom Aman, LED 2144 Sorry Tom, I've got to really disagree with you on this one. I first used software to clone my hard drive. Then each night, after work, it automatically backs up any files that have changed that day. This way I have a copy of my whole drive that is, at most, 1 day out of date. My hard drive recently failed. I booted from my back up drive and was operating again in minutes. Maybe I have more software than you, but to reinstall all my programs and configure them would take a considerable and frustrating length of time. I later cloned my drive content onto another computer and continued to work while mine was repaired. When mine came back, I cloned back and was again operational in a very short time. Each of these changes of workspace would involve large amounts of time if I had to reinstall even just my main programs with each transfer. The combination of cloning plus regular automatic backup is, I think, the way to go. The money I earned in the saved time was very much more than the cost of the back-up hard drive and software (an excellent program called Super-Duper). Michael Linehan, Marketing Alchemy www.marketing-alchemy.com ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains © Copyright 1995-2006 Orange Wheel, LLC. All Rights Reserved. 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