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Adam Audette                          LED Digest
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April 24, 2006                      Issue no. 2145
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


==== NEW ========================

        <Moderator Comment>

        --== Site Search ==--

                ~ Waitman Gobble
"Perhaps you should consider using AJAX..."

                ~ Joseph Taylor
"I have...created what I call a 'blended' search..."

        --== How Does BuyHitsCheap Work? ==--

                ~ Binky Lopez
"How do they send 10,000 visitors to a website?"


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Duplicate Content ==--

                ~ Dr. Mani Sivasubramanian
"I did some research into the topic of 'duplicate
content'..."

                ~ Scott Marino
"My take would be to let the entire site be indexed."

                ~ Brad Waller
"...I would think that the content would not really
be identical..."

                ~ Chris Nielsen
"...there is a lot of misunderstanding about the
term ['duplicate content']."


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== Help with Backups ==--
                ~ Richard Graham
                ~ Alberto Rodriguez Duque
                ~ Michael Linehan


======== NEW =====================================

<Moderator Comment>

Greetings LEDer,

Last Friday I asked you about the archives on the LED site and
received some useful feedback. I'll post a few of the responses in
today's issue.

The consensus seems to be that there might not be a duplicate
content problem after all. I'll let you read today's issue for the
details.

Check out the posts by Waitman and Joseph post below. Both were
commenting about the LED archives, but I thought site search would
make an interesting topic, especially in light of AJAX and other
developing technologies. Viggie Bala posted about AJAX in issue 2123
and there was some discussion (see "The Javascript Comeback &
AJAX"), but it might be worth re-visiting this topic in more detail.

Any thoughts?

Also, Binks is asking about the site BuyHitsCheap. The question
posed is interesting, really: how does this site work? Learning the
details may help reveal why sites such as these -- which claim easy
solutions to site traffic -- are often poor choices.

Have a great week,
Adam

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From: Waitman Gobble
Subject: Site Search

Hello Adam,

Perhaps you should consider using a JavaScript AJAX technique for
the section that you believe will receive the most human visitors
and plain HTML for the section that's going to be indexed. Your site
could set an example.

Best Regards,

Waitman Gobble


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Joe Taylor
Subject: Site search

You might want to look at my solution for searching a large site.

I have installed multiple search engine software and created what I
call a "blended" search, showing five results from each area and
allowing people to drill down in a given area.

Also, the software I used allows for showing "snippets" of how the
words are used, in context, to help them find what they want quicker.

Without Google-type search technology, this was a good way to let
find what they want, quicker.

Here is the link to one search for the word "test".
http://www.powderandbulk.com/search.php?q=test

Very Truly Yours,

Joseph Taylor

Subscribe to our weekly newsletter for the professional
http://www.powderandbulk.com/


-------- new post - new topic --------

From: Binky Lopez
Subject: How Does BuyHitsCheap.com work?

I recently stumbled across Buyhitscheap.com which promises to
deliver 10,000 "guaranteed unique visitors" to a website for only
$12.50..

It seems like a scam to me but I'd like to hear what you experts
know about this.  How do they send 10,000 visitors to a website?
How does their system or scheme work?  Is this something worth
trying?

I just can't shake the feeling that it sounds too good to be true
and to be avoided at all costs.  Please advise.

Thanks!

Binks Lopez


======== CONTINUING ===============================

From: Dr. Mani Sivasubramanian
Subject: Duplicate content

Adam, this doesn't answer your question directly, but hopefully will
help.

When I launched a web-based tool, "Make Content Unique" in January,
I did some research into the topic of 'duplicate content' - and
summarized what I found, along with some links to more in-depth
content, on a section of my site:

http://www.makecontentunique.com/duplicate-content.htm

Dr. Mani Sivasubramanian

Customize Your PLR Articles - Quickly, Easily
http://www.makecontentunique.com


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Scott Marino
Subject: Duplicate content

My take would be to let the entire site be indexed.

The search engine indexing algorithms use many factors to rate /
rank a page for inclusion, on of which is keyword and phrase
density. A page of an issue on a date has many topics and will be
scored differently than a page that has a thread that spanned
several issues. While the overall content is the same, the pages are
much different and would be ranked differently.  I highly doubt
Google or the others would penalize you for letting the entire site
be indexed. It's likely that they have already accounted for this in
their algorithms.

You may even want to start creating a sitemap for Google (Google the
term sitemap) since the site content will change almost daily. It's
a way of getting them the information faster.

Regards,

Scott Marino
www.webundies.com


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Brad Waller
Subject: Duplicate content

I'm no SEO expert, but I would think that the content would not
really be identical if it was being listed through different paths.
An archive of an issue is different from a thread on one topic.
While some of the text will be the same, the page as a whole will be
very different.

I don't know if you want to go to the trouble of cataloging every
post, but I could see a database where each post is a unique entry
that is tagged with relevant keywords covering the topic discussed.
You could even allow readers to tag posts as they read them to make
it easier and faster to get the job done.  Then a search could be
performed and it could pull up posts that have tags that match based
on topic or the name of the contributor.

Remember some of the keys, let your users provide the content - or
in this case, the tags - and everything is a lot easier.

Brad Waller

Manage and Sell your own site advertising
http://adjungle.com
waller, adjungle.com


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Chris Nielsen
Subject: Duplicate content

Since you are extracting parts of the original publications, I would
not worry about "duplicate" content, since there is a lot of
misunderstanding about the term. What I have seen over and over
again is that "duplicate content" is not a problem, but "duplicate
sites" are. It is expected that some content is going to be so good
that it will appear on many, many sites. I don't see things like
press releases, news, articles, and other things have problems
because they are not unique.

In this case, since the pages will not be duplicates, I don't think
you have anything to worry about. And I feel you will be denying
your site it's full potential by the addition of those robots tags.

Thank you,

Chris Nielsen
www.domainincubation.com


==== BILLBOARD ===================================

From: Richard Graham
Subject: Backups

One back-up tip is to save all your data and email folder to a
separate partition.  Twice now I've had to re-install laptops due to
a messed up C Drive. Both times the computer gave me the option of
not deleting my D drive so I didn't lose all my data only the
installed programmes.

I also tried saving my email folder to a removable 1 Gb flashcard,
but Outlook Express didn't seem to like that.

Be genki,

Richard Graham


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Alberto Rodriguez Duque
Subject: backup

I have a PC and a Laptop, just recently found www.beinsync.com which
keeps syncronized up to 5 to 15 computers, which is a form of
backup. It is free for 30 days.

Alberto Rodriguez Duque


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Michael Linehan
Subject: Backups

> Assuming that you have legal copies of all your software,
> it can always be reinstalled so the only thing that really
> needs to be backed up is your data. The result of all this
> is that I can do a complete backup of my data in under
> an hour.
        - Tom Aman, LED 2144

Sorry Tom, I've got to really disagree with you on this one.  I
first used software to clone my hard drive.  Then each night, after
work, it automatically backs up any files that have changed that
day.  This way I have a copy of my whole drive that is, at most, 1
day out of date.  My hard drive recently failed.  I booted from my
back up drive and was operating again in minutes.  Maybe I have more
software than you, but to reinstall all my programs and configure
them would take a considerable and frustrating length of time.

I later cloned my drive content onto another computer and continued
to work while mine was repaired.  When mine came back, I cloned back
and was again operational in a very short time.  Each of these
changes of workspace would involve large amounts of time if I had to
reinstall even just my main programs with each transfer.

The combination of cloning plus regular automatic backup is, I
think, the way to go.  The money I earned in the saved time was very
much more than the cost of the back-up hard drive and software (an
excellent program called Super-Duper).

Michael Linehan, Marketing Alchemy
www.marketing-alchemy.com


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