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May 23, 2006 Issue no. 2166
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.....IN THIS DIGEST.....
==== CONTINUING =================
--== Backlinks ==--
~ Shari Thurow
"Rankings have nothing to do with whether or
not a document is formatted as a PDF..."
~ Simon Grabowski
"We can only guess why Google does this."
--== Spam via Feedback Forms ==--
~ Gurdip Singh
"...I installed a form script that requires information
to be entered from a random image."
~ Don Killen
"...precisely how do you know the spam relates
directly to your form?"
~ Michael Linehan
"I don't see any feedback forms that you refer to."
~ Diane Dennis
"I find that Spamsieve is pretty darn good..."
==== BILLBOARD ===================
--== Go Daddy ==--
~ Lee Roberts
~ Lew Vividere
--== Fighting Spam - A Study ==--
~ Tom Anson
======== CONTINUING ===============================From: Shari Thurow Subject: PDF backlinks > ... do the links from an indexed PDF > file count as regular backlinks? - Claudiu Spulber, LED 2165 Hi all- This is in response to Claudiu Spulber's post in LED 2165 regarding links in PDF files. I always recommend using absolute links in PDF files because many people email PDFs and download them on their computers. If you put relative links in a PDF, they won't deliver people to the desired information if the PDF is not being viewed as a part of a Web site. Yes, search engines can and do index links in PDF and other types of files. However, most PDFs lack the information architecture that a Web site has, and few PDFs have high-quality link development. That is why their linkage properties are usually not high. Rankings have nothing to do with whether or not a document is formatted as a PDF (unless a person is searching specifically for a PDF file). I've been optimizing PDFs for years with outstanding results. I'm the speaker at Search Engine Strategies conferences on the topic of PDF optimization. Don't forget that usability always counts. Metadata is not a substitute for usability, whether the file type is PDF, HTML, or any text file. Sincerely, Shari Thurow, Webmaster/Marketing Director Grantastic Designs, Inc. For Free design and marketing tips, visit us at: http://www.grantasticdesigns.com/tips.html -------- new post - same topic --------- From: Simon Grabowski Subject: Backlinks - Google, PDF, etc. > I know that when using the link: command in Google > only a sample of the backlinks is shown, but on other > search engines (msn, yahoo) all of them are displayed. > I was wondering why does this happen. - Claudiu Spulber, LED 2165 This is simply "the way that Google is." They have never provided the full list of backlinks, but only a sampling. We can only guess why Google does this. If you are looking for a more complete list of backlinks, try the following: http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/ http://search.msn.com (for MSN, use the standard "link:domain.com" search) Regards, Simon Grabowski GetResponse - email marketing and autoresponders http://www.getresponse.com/ -------- new post - new topic --------- From: Gurdip Singh Subject: Feedback forms > I am not too sure if it is me or what, but recently, I discovered > there are a lot of spam coming through via our feedback forms. - Eddie Teo, LED 2164 Some of the websites my company developed fell victim to online form spammers in recent months. A couple of months back I installed a form script that requires information to be entered from a random image. That seems to have solved the problem. I can't recall offhand which script I used, but you should be able to find a similar one for free on the web. Regards, Gurdip Singh Media Genesis www.i-mediagenesis.com -------- new post - same topic --------- From: Don Killen Subject: Feedback forms Eddie, precisely how do you know the spam relates directly to your form? Do you test / validate email and name entries in your form processing? What technology are you using for the form (HTML, ASP, ASP.NET, Perl, etc.)? As a card-carrying paranoid, I've got a "text chunks" table in a database to weed out stuff like "asdf" and relatives. And "funny-bunny" name entries likewise get tested and we send an HTML back to the user (switching to ASPX to postback more quickly) informing them of any screwball looking names like a b (first and last names) and the spam keeps coming but I don't see a correlation here - Our email is in "SOME" forms as a mailto:us@here type thing but don't know if this helps spammers or not. Probably does. Everything else does, why not that? Don Killen www.greenleafsoft.com -------- new post - same topic --------- From: Michael Linehan Subject: Feedback forms Hello Eddie, I don't see any feedback FORMS that you refer to. On your home page, I see invitations to report bugs or feedback. The code behind one of those lines is Bugs/Feedback/Comments welcome at <.a xhref="mailto: This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ">WebMaster<./a>. Meaning that those email addresses are completely exposed to spam harvesters. And on your contact page your emails are nicely collected together and further exposed. Forms could protect you, but currently the spammers can pick up your email addresses as easily from the visible text or HTML code of your site as if you handed them over, personally. Michael Linehan Marketing Alchemy www.marketing-alchemy.com -------- new post - same topic --------- From: Diane Dennis Subject: Feedback forms > Anyone facing the same problems? I am getting > "Scooter", "Cialis", "Viagra" types of spam mails, > all via the feedback form. - Eddie Teo, LED 2164 Yes! I am inundated with these lately! I thought it wasn't possible to submit these feedback forms automatically but I can't help but think that they have to be because there are so many coming in. I find that Spamsieve is pretty darn good at determining which of these emails are legitimate and which are spam. Actually now that I think about it, Spamsieve hasn't been wrong even ONCE when sorting through these specific emails (although I do still check every one of them ;). Cheers everyone and thank you! Diane Dennis http://www.thecontractorsgroup.com ==== BILLBOARD =================================== From: Lee Roberts Subject: Go Daddy > ... I really do not like Go Daddy... PLEASE sign > up with Tucows.com (opensrs.org) -- it costs > a little more, but the service is fantastic, and > they never try to sell to your clients! - John Smart, LED 2165 I've used GoDaddy as well and totally dislike the misrepresentation and overly zealous advertising concepts. I don't know of any attempts to advertise to our clients, but I certainly believe they might do that. I do recall a few newsletters coming our way, but not very often. Anyways, my experience with Tucows (OpenSRS) isn't so good either. Managing things for clients has always been a pain. We elected to use Bulkregister.com, years ago and wanted the private domain option. We chose to go to GoDaddy with all the domains in our client portfolio. We learned how much wrong that decision was once we started purchasing SSL certs for clients. We have elected to return to Bulkregister and save a few pennies ... each one counts, right? At least we don't have to worry about anyone attempting to market to our clients or the misrepresentation. We pay less than we did at GoDaddy. Sincerely, Lee Roberts http://www.merchantmetrix.com -------- new post - same topic --------- From: Lew Vividere Subject: Go Daddy You have had bad luck with GoDaddy, I have had back luck with Tucows. I signed up for their retailer program for around $100 but before doing so was given certain promises relative to their assistance getting things set up so I could buy and sell domains. After purchasing their retailer package I was told I was on my own and the would not give me any assistance to get their service working on my hosting domain. I asked to speak to a manger and asked for a refund. They refused to give me a management person to talk to and refused to give me a refund although I never used nor was able to use their services. I had no problem getting set up with GoDaddy's wholesale domain. Many of my clients were already GoDaddy customers so they were already being mailed by GD. I don't know if any that weren't have gotten GD mailings or not. That is devious but I can't say if the are doing it or not. Lew Vividere -------- new post - new topic -------- From: Tom Anson Subject: Spam study Like Susan Johnson (LED 2164), almost all of my spam email does not have an unsubscribe link. However, about 95% of what I get is affiliate spam from one website. It has a form for reporting spam. But this requires that you provide the email's header. I use OutLook Express, which doesn't provide the header. Trying to report the spam without the header information proved to be mostly useless. Whether we see unsubscribe links or not, I think this is a great study to do. We should be able to find a way to work around some of these details. Count me in. Tom Anson Anson Aromatic Essentials http://www.therapeutic-grade.com
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