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May 24, 2006 Issue no. 2167
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.....IN THIS DIGEST.....
====== NEW =====================
--== Web Stats: Blind Views / Visits ==--
~ Beth M. Durkee
"What do these numbers indicate?"
--== Email Cloaking ==--
~ Michael Linehan
"Anyone have the technical knowledge to
*know* whether encoding no longer works?"
==== CONTINUING =================
--== Backlinks ==--
~ Claudiu Spulber
"One of our products is a PDF creator..."
--== Spam via Feedback Forms ==--
~ Steve Warriner
"I use MasterFeedback..."
~ John Smart
"...one night someone kindly sent 20,000
spams out through our server."
==== BILLBOARD ===================
--== Go Daddy ==--
~ Nancy Cardinali
--== Fighting Spam - A Study ==--
~ Viggie Bala
~ Kathy Wilson
========== NEW ===================================From: Beth Durkee Subject: New Post - Blind Views or Blind Visits We've started using a new web stats package and we're seeing a lot more data on our site visitors. One report shows a significant number of "blind visits" or "blind views" -- What do these numbers indicate? The product itself is intuitive but the documentation is not great. I'm stumped for an explanation for these numbers! I'd appreciate any insight. Thanks, Beth M. Durkee, CIW, Principal Eyeland Creations Great Impression Services for Business Communication www.eyelandcreations.com -------- new post - new topic --------- From: Michael Linehan Subject: New Post - Spam: Know Thy Enemy I recently had some email correspondance with a site owner who needed a little assistance. Then a surprise -- he decided he'd be helpful back by telling me how to spam effectively! (I don't spam and never have.) One of the URLs he gave me was this: http://www.emailsmartz.com/asp/spider.asp. Take a look through their products. This is what you are up against when you are trying to protect yourself from spam. He was also telling me that protecting by encoding no longer works. Part of what he said about the double-encoded ASCII / javascript email link on my site was: ---------------------- "Actually even decoding yours the old way, would be child's play - just look for JavaScript tag and ask js to see if it's hex, binary or dec - 1 line of code for each - the rest is done by js libraries. But doing it this way is slower and cumbersome. However the code for this is also freely available on web. There are 2 ways to protect your email - an image of your email or don't publish it." ---------------------- Mind you, it seems to be working for me so far. But still, disturbing. So I've switched my site to a form. Anyone have the technical knowledge to KNOW for sure whether encoding no longer works? Here's what one anti-spam product says on that topic - which would seem to confirm what the spammer told me. (I have not tried this product myself - this is just for the information that encryption does not work.) ---------------------- "At present some programs collecting email addresses can already decrypt addresses encrypted with almost any method and add them to their database. Neither javascript cloak, nor HTML cloak can help. To protect against such email harvesters, you should not specify your email address on web pages in any form (neither plain nor encrypted) and Email Cloaker for Web 1.2 allows you to protect your addresses in such a way." ---------------------- Michael Linehan Marketing Alchemy www.marketing-alchemy.com ======== CONTINUING =============================== From: Claudiu Spulber Subject: Backlinks > Yes, search engines can and do index links > in PDF and other types of files. - Shari Thurow, LED 2166 Thank you Shari, this answered my question. One of our products is a PDF creator and if it's not registered it places a notice on the created PDF (no other limitations) that includes an absolute link to our website. We had a discussion whether to make this time limited or leaving this as it is, but given that we'll have the benefit of the backlink it will remain as it is (probably changing the link to be anchor text would be better). Regards, Claudiu Spulber http://www.backup4all.com// http://www.novapdf.com// -------- new post - new topic --------- From: Steve Warriner Subject: Feedback forms Will Bontrager posted on this topic yesterday and was careful not to blow his own horn. You may be interested in his article on forms hijacking: http://snipurl.com/qvjc [bontragercgi.com] There is a link at the bottom of his article to his new service that guarantees hijack-proof forms. I use MasterFeedback with the lines of code in his article to prevent line feeds in the headers. Additionally it has my email address only in the script, not on the form itself, so it can't be harvested. Steve Warriner -------- new post - same topic --------- From: John Smart Subject: Feedback forms We used to use the 'standard' allegedly secure CGI script for our forms, then one night someone kindly sent 20,000 spams out through our server. I wrote my own form software - and it is so easy, yet unhackable. I have a script on my site - I give all my domains a unique ID (a number) that they include as a hidden field on their form. Their form submits to my script - which gathers their e-Mail from a database and send the form to them. It cannot be rerouted to a different recipient, and the code that went into it is pretty simple! John Smart, Technical Director InternetDesign.com - A Human Touch in a Digital World ==== BILLBOARD =================================== From: Nancy Cardinali Subject: Go Daddy > ... I really do not like Go Daddy... PLEASE sign > up with Tucows.com (opensrs.org) -- it costs > a little more, but the service is fantastic... - John Smart, LED 2165 Well, Go-Daddy and others may be cheaper, but if you really want excellent service you should use PairNic.com to register your domains and Pair.com to host. Period. THE best. AND, they help keep this Digest going!!! Nancy Cardinali -------- new post - new topic -------- From: Viggie Bala Subject: Spam study > I use OutLook Express, which doesn't > provide the header. - Tom Anson, LED 2166 In OutLook Express, it's a 3 click approach. 1) a right click at the message, 2) select Properties & 3) clicking 'Details' tab will reveal the headers. You can also view the entire message through the 'Message Source...' button in this tab. BTW, my junk mails are around 30 - 50 per mail ID per day. I have to handle mail IDs for different websites, so it adds up to 200 - 250. My main mail ID is more secluded than the others. I preferred to test unsubscribing in one of my other ID where I get only forum digests (not our LED), opt-in mails & spam. In a way this mail ID is not very vital & can risk a test. Mail arrivals today morning was 42 of which spam count is 39. Most of them have no unsubscribe links. I clicked the only link available in these mails, and almost always, the resulting page have opt-out (or remove me) links at the top. I have unsubscribed in 4-5 mails. However, I have no confidence in the Viagra, Cialis type sites & haven't ventured unsubscribing there. Some of these unsubscribe links goes to an idential looking newsletter unsubscribe forms. May be those spam list sellers bundle an newsletter script along with their list. I intend to unsubscribe in this mail ID regularly. I will inform my results as well. Thanks & Regards, Viggie Bala Helping websites to work. http://www.viggie.com -------- new post - same topic --------- From: Kathy Wilson Subject: Spam study I use Eudora, which has an option in the toolbar named "blah blah blah". When clicked on, this expands the heading to show everything. Two suggestions: look around Outlook to see if it offers such an option or switch to Eudora. Actually, by switching to Eudora you enjoy another benefit - avoidance of most of the emailed worms and such that are targeted towards Outlook. Love, Kathy Wilson http://www.under-one-roof.net Life Purpose Coaching ~ Spiritual Teaching ~ Vibrational Healing
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