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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" Data > Information > Knowledge > Wisdom pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam, led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com ............................................. July 21, 2006 Issue no. 2208 ............................................. .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ======= NEW ==================== --== Robots.txt for European Sites ==-- ~ David Betterton "We live in a world where the English language appears to dominate the web..." ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Fixed Width vs Fluid Web Sites ==-- ~ Viggie Bala "...use different external CSS files for different media." ~ Kathy Wilson "Each website has a different target market..." ~ James Miller "One of the biggest irritants I find, is web sites that automatically resize your browser." --== Reciprocal Linking + Paid Links ==-- ~ Donald Nelson "The problem these days is that most reciprocal linking is SEO-driven." ~ Michael Martinez "Brett Tabke took my research and set up the first link farm with several hundred volunteers." ~ Nathan Holley "Okay - you got me Dirk. I for one would love to hear your approach and strategies." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== 000domains.com - Anyone There? ==-- ~ Val Waldeck --== Business Communication ==-- ~ Greg Watson ~ John Barendrecht ========== NEW =================================== From: David Betterton Subject: Using robots.txt files in Pan-European websites Hello Everyone I wonder if anyone can help us with a general question about the use of robots.txt files in Europe-based websites? As we live in a world where the English language appears to dominate the web, it seems natural to us that our robots.txt files should be written in English. It also seems natural that we should expect spider software to interpret the file for websites written in German, French or Dutch languages, and registered in .de, .be and nl domains. However, it would be interested to know if this is actually the case. We would also be interested in learning of any resources on the web which cover this topic in detail, including the names of individual bots for Google, MSN and Yahoo in these countries. Any advice on this would be much appreciated Sincerely, David Betterton Country Connect david, countryconnect.co.uk ======== CONTINUING =============================== From: Viggie Bala Subject: Fixed width > We're back to horses for courses here. - Maty Matyszak, LED 2206 Would like to re-visit 'horses for courses.' Just a bit different here that there can be different horses for the same website. And the 'courses' are the media used to visit the website, like PC, mobiles, PDAs and yes printers, WebTV, Braille and speech synthesizers included. > We worked on an educational site with a fixed > width design, and found that it gave horrendous > problems to students who preferred to print... You can have a visual layout for on screen display, yet make it print out like a document with just the main content & headings. You don't need any special scripts, just CSS will do. All we have to do is, use different external CSS files for different media. You can hide some parts of the screen for printing [display: none;] and also use different content width & font sizes for mobile, webtv etc. An official list of recognized CSS media types & explanations are available here: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/media.html Regards, Viggie Bala Helping websites to work http://www.viggie.com -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Kathy Wilson Subject: Fixed width Regarding these stats that Mary Lee shared with us in issue 2204: 1024 x 768 is 56.15% 1280 x 1024 is 15.79% 800 x 600 is 12.04% 1280 x 800 is 4.09% 1152 x 864 is 3.90% I don't know where she got her statistics, but it doesn't matter. You see, the absolute best place to obtain this type of information is your own statistics program for your own website. Each website has a different target market and each group or market has a different percentage of screen resolutions. I have around 50 website clients that I also host and when I check their statistics, each one shows a different percentage in each monitor resolution size. Typically, there's a wide variation in the numbers. Love, Kathy Wilson http://www.under-one-roof.net Life Purpose Coaching ~ Spiritual Teaching ~ Vibrational Healing -------- new post - same topic -------- From: James Miller Subject: Fixed width I always design web pages so that they are of a fixed width, where the pages are likely to be printed. As I do a lot of work with lawyers, who like to provide pages that their clients can easily print and take away, this is good sense. One lawyer told me that some of their clients don't have the Internet and they need to give them the information. (In the UK, this lawyer gave up printed pages as things change too often with this fiddling government!) Interestingly, I was in a City bank a few months ago and their research department, had very big screens. They were displaying A4 documents side-by-side. I believe screens will get bigger and bigger and more and more pages will be designed as A4 pages. Another point is that many newspapers now design so that they are fixed width, with junk and links in the non-printing part. Such as The Times print well. One of the biggest irritants I find, is web sites that automatically resize your browser. I never buy product from any web site that does that! James Miller Daisy Analysis http://www.daisy.co.uk -------- new post - new topic -------- From: Donald Nelson Subject: Linking Dear All, Joel Lesser's (LED 2207) clarification about the role of a responsible method of reciprocal linking is a good contribution to the ongoing discussion here. I have been an enthusiastic fan of reciprocal linking since my first days on the Internet in 1996 and I believe that the link exchanges that I did helped my sites and later on my client sites. The problem these days is that most reciprocal linking is SEO-driven and most link requests that I receive are from other sites that are either not related or have giant directories (link farms) where my link will never be seen and will never deliver any traffic. My initial enthusiasm for reciprcoal linking has thus been dampened. Still, if you have a new site, and want to generate some extra targeted traffic, then look around for related sites which have link pages where your link would have a chance of being seen by an audience that is interested in what you have to offer. When you find such sites, then cordially request a link exchange. It can't hurt you. Sincerely, Donald Nelson www.a1-optimization.com -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Michael Martinez Subject: Linking and Link Farms > Matt Cutts specified in a WebmasterWorld Keynote (Nov, 2005) > that purchased links and reciprocal link farms are hated by Google. > [He] was referring to "reciprocal link farms" in that keynote. The > term "reciprocal link farm" is... a site that publishes irrelevant > links in high volume deemed not to be useful or beneficial for > the end user... - Joel Lesser, LED 2207 Absolutely not! I was one of the people who pioneered link farming. The definition is very standardized and I am surprised anyone might still be throwing out an erroneous definition. A link farm is any group of Web sites where all the member Web sites link to each other. Link farms were developed to influence the primary index for the old Inktomi search engine. At the time, Inktomi was only keeping about 110 million documents in that index. They claimed to have indexed about 500 million documents, but their customers were only showing results from the 110 million in the primary index. Commercial Web sites, especially, and all new Web sites found it extremely difficult to get into and stay in the primary index. I found that, if enough crawl pages were placed on different domains, Inktomi would tend to recrawl a targeted Web site's pages so often they stayed in the primary index. And the additional linkage helped with their rankings (Inktomi based its results partially on straight link popularity). Brett Tabke took my research and set up the first link farm with several hundred volunteers. They all reported fantastic results. It was only a year or so later that people realized how link farms might help with the then still-new Google search engine. Michael Martinez "Cuando Maria canta, canta para mi" http://www.michael-martinez.com/ http://michael-martinez.blogspot.com/ -------- new post - same topic -------- From: Nathan Holley Subject: Reciprocation Tactics > Responsible reciprocation is what we do for a living. And I am > quite willing to share our approach and tactics with anyone. - Dirk Johnson, LED 2206 Okay - you got me Dirk. I for one would love to hear your approach and strategies. Thanks, Nathan Holley ==== BILLBOARD =================================== From: Val Waldeck Subject: 000doomains.com I have registered domain names with 000domains.com, but it seems as if they can no longer be contacted. Does anyone know if they are still operating or just having server problems? I would appreciate any assistance. Thanks. Val Waldeck www.valwaldeck.com reaching our generation one book at a time -------- new post - new topic --------- From: Greg Watson Subject: Business communication I would like to correct a false statement so others are not misinformed. To justify her behavior towards a prospective client, Martha Retallick writes [issue 2207]: > As for listing my phone number on the > Do Not Call list, that is my right. If indeed Martha is a "real" business, then business telephone numbers are not eligible to be placed on any national do not call list. Do not call lists regulate business to consumer telephone calls, they do not regulate business to business calls. But equally importantly, they do not regulate consumer to business calls. Normally, Martha is a valued contributor to this list, but in this case, the information needed to be corrected. Greg Watson -------- new post - same topic --------- From: John Barendrecht Subject: Business communication I think Martha [LED 2207] really dropped the ball here. It is common courtesy to introduce yourself first, whether on the phone or in person. I wonder how many other potential clients she has hung up on? It would have only taken another 30 seconds to determine the nature of the call. If Martha is not into web design, she may have been able to suggest a friend or colleague. Potential clients often don't read every web page but call or email to ask questions. Even telemarketers are an opportunity to practice your sales pitch. Whenever I get a vacuum cleaner sales call, I tell them I don't need a vacuum cleaner but that I have this great website that sells fitness videos and DVDs. Do they need workout after sitting in that boiler room all day? People call me about web design and SEO, even though we don't list this as a service. I take their name, etc. and refer them to colleagues who specialize in that. Best regards, John Barendrecht http://www.iefit.com
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