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Wondering about press releases? Here's the scoop: journalists are lazy.
A good press release is something that a journalist can take, make one
or two minor changes, then publish leaving plenty of time to get to the pub.

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August 30, 2006                     Issue no. 2236
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            .....IN THIS DIGEST.....


==== CONTINUING =================

        --== Press Releases ==--

                ~ Lee Odden
"Encourage distribution and syndication of
the release content via RSS..."

                ~ Steven Rothberg
"So press releases are normally like trees
falling in a forest."

                ~ John Smart
"I feel I can speak with a little authority on
the matter..."

        --== Small Business Sites ==--

                ~ Allan Gardyne
"I want readers to know that it can be done."

                ~ Nancy Schettler
"...that's about eight families that my homemade
websites are helping to feed."

                ~ Mark Whitman
"LEDers are making an effort to learn the fine
points of developing effective websites..."

        --== Hidden Frames ==--

                ~ Stephen Mareches
"[Sub-domains] don't tend to do well in Search
Engine Rankings..."


==== BILLBOARD ===================

        --== Site Analytics - Terminology? ==--
                ~ John Brumage


======== CONTINUING ===============================

From: Lee Odden
Subject: Press releases

> We are considering a Press Release
> for one of our niche sites.
        - Joe Bodnarchuk, LED 2235

Hey Joe,

Press releases are tools like any other marketing tactic and can be
useful in a variety of ways based on your objective.

Here are a few things to consider regarding press releases:

1. Write the release with keywords in mind - similar to an optimized
web page

2. Distribute the release through a wire service like PRWeb.com,
PR.com, PR Newswire or Business Wire

3. Research publications / journalists and blogs that might be
interested in your news and send them a short summary of the news
via email with a link to the full press release

4. Encourage distribution and syndication of the release content via
RSS

5. Embed tracking IDs in URLs within the release and/or use a
landing page to determine your success metrics

6. Monitor pickups of the release with Google News Alerts, Yahoo
Alerts and RSS feeds from blog search engines. When bloggers post
about your release, be sure to comment.

Here's an article that may be of use in case you want to write,
distribute and promote the release yourself:

"Lowdown on Press Release Optimization"
http://snipurl.com/vp4b  [toprankblog.com]

Lee Odden

TopRank Online Marketing
http://www.toprankresults.com


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Steven Rothberg
Subject: Press Releases

> From my preliminary research press releases seem
> to be a rather inexpensive way to get the word out.
        - Joe Bodnarchuk, LED 2235

Press releases are a rather inexpensive way of getting the word out
but also a rather ineffective way. They only work if your press
release is (1) actually news and not just self-serving information
that is only of interest to those who closely follow the company,
which almost all are; (2) the press release actually being read by a
journalist, which almost none are; (3) the journalist is working on
a story about the same issue at the same time that your press
release arrives, which is rare; and (4) the journalist and her
editor believing that your information will add to that story, which
is also rare unless your organization is well known.

So press releases are normally like trees falling in a forest. If
there aren't any journalists there to hear them, do they really get
heard?

That said, we still send out press releases because if sent properly
they get picked up by Google, Yahoo, and MSN and some additional
links to your site from the search engines never hurts. But the vast
majority of our press coverage (and we get a lot) comes from our
subscription to PR Leads. (Full disclosure: PR Leads is owned by a
friend, Dan Janal.) For $99 per month, you will receive leads via
email in your areas of interest from journalists who are writing
stories and looking for people to quote. You answer the emails and
either wait for the phone to ring if they want to interview you or
sometimes your quote just ends up in their story even without an
interview. Because of PR Leads, I am regularly quoted by major wire
services and publications such as the Associated Press, Reuters, New
York Times, Wall Street Journal, and USA Today.

If you contact Dan Janal This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it , tell him that I referred
you. Maybe he'll take me to a Twins game this October (not so subtle
jab at White Sox fans).

Steven Rothberg, President and Founder

CollegeRecruiter.com | Entry Level Jobs for Students & Recent Graduates!
http://www.collegerecruiter.com


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: John Smart
Subject: Press releases

Press releases are wonderful, if done right. I feel I can speak with
a little authority on the matter as I was the copy editor for m2
communications presswire service when it launched (M2.com). For a
fee (I have no idea how much, I left the company a long time ago)
your press release will get distributed to well, just about
everywhere. However, as well as putting all the press releases
online, I had to 'flag' interesting ones for the M2 newsrooms. This
is what editors want:

- If you have a new employee - unless it is a major player in either
the industry or the community, they won't care

- If your profits are up, unless it is by a substantial amount, they
won't care

- If you have a new technology which has helped you to catch up with
everyone else, they won't care

- If you have a new product, service, patent or are holding some
sort of gathering, they will care. If you are releasing new
software, book(s) or e-book(s) they will care.

A good process release needs a good headline - if I did not know
what the press release was about by the third line, it went in the
circular file. A good headline is very important.

I feel I have worked with enough journalists, and done enough
journalistic work to safely say:

Journalists are lazy. A good press release is something that a
journalist can take, make one or two minor changes, then publish
leaving plenty of time to get to the pub. If he has to call you for
clarification, or go get some lunch - which do you think he will do?
(It's hungry work, being a journalist!)

If your press release is more than two pages long - it is too long.
If you cannot get all that data in to two pages, then don't! Put in
teasers, and link to a fuller version online.

Start with the date - papers do not want old news. Do not send out
embargoed news - no one can be bothered, and it will be tossed away
(embargoed is when you send out news ahead of time - Ferrari can get
away with it, as can the Red Socks, but not the rest of us)

At the end of your press release, you should put in two sections.
Notes to editors, and contact details. They could read something
like:

Notes to editors

LED Digest was launched in 1997 and shares news on website
promotions with well over 35,000 subscribers spanning more than 120
countries. The associated website has a searchable database of over
eighteen thousand articles on hundreds of topics relating to
internet businesses. Subscribing to the LED is completely free of
charge and will put you in a discussion with thousands of successful
individuals who are after the same goal - online success.

Contact details

For any questions, please contact Adam Audette, List moderator via
e-Mail:

This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it

or by phone:

1-800 555 5555

The website can be found at:
http://www.led-digest.com

I hope this helps. When you watch your local news at night and the
last story makes you think 'why is that on the news - how do they
know about that) - press release!!

When you read a short magazine article and think 'this reads more
like an advert than an article' - press release.

Oh - and do you ever see competitors interviewed for their opinions
on tv stations? That happens either because they are related to the
producer, or they send in press releases, so the TV station knows
where to find them (TV Journalists are no better than print
journalists!)

I hope this helps,

John Smart
InternetDesign.com - A Human Touch in a Digital World


-------- new post - new topic --------

From: Allan Gardyne
Subject: Small Business Sites

> If the business owner doesn't have ... a few
> thousand dollars to spend to have the job
> done well, my question would be - "so...
> what are you going to do when you're bankrupt?" :)
        - Mark Whitman, LED 2234

In an ideal world, I'm sure you're right. The most effective path is
to hire an expert to build your website for you. However, let's not
discourage the struggling newcomers who don't live in an ideal
world. It's possible to pull yourself up by the bootstraps in
business, and the Internet is the ideal place to do so.

When I began marketing on the Internet in 1996, I was working
part-time and flat broke. I built my first website, written in raw
HTML, after reading a two-page article in a magazine which described
how to do it. Ten years later, after only VERY minimal changes, that
ancient, hardly touched site now earns about $100 a week from
AdSense.

It's not serious money, but to someone in Bulgaria or Romania or
Malaysia, or lots other places around the world, it would be very
useful.

In spite of my lack of expertise, I went on to create other sites,
including a sprawling monster of a site which has attracted 2
million visitors in the past year. My amateurish sites generate
enough revenue for me to employ three full-time employees and a few
part-timers.

To my modest vision, that's something better than the "pathetic"
results Mark expects from a self-taught website owner.

I'm proud of the fact that I started with a budget of about zero and
built a business. I want readers to know that it can be done. I love
getting emails from people who thank me for helping them to quit
their day jobs.

I'm sorry I can't show you that untidy, sprawling monster. We've
just given the old girl a new dress, tidied up, added new sections
and new articles and relaunched AssociatePrograms.com.

I hope its more professional appearance meets your approval, Mark.

All the best

Allan Gardyne
http://www.associateprograms.com


-------- new post - same topic --------

From: Nancy Schettler
Subject: Do-it-yourself website builders

Well, gee, Mark... as for a small business owner building their own
website... I guess it depends on exactly how small you are!

When you start with next to nothing, you have nothing to spend to
buy a professionally designed website. As someone once described it
to me, having a website (if you're an "unknown" business) is rather
like putting up a billboard in the middle of the desert. You're not
sure that anyone will ever read it! So it doesn't necessarily make
any sense to spend thousands of dollars to create it. If you can
make it yourself, for little or nothing, at least you can see if you
get any results at all, and then go from there.

My websites are not "professional", and I'm sure that there plenty
of room for improvement in looks, functionality, performance, and
volume of sales generated. Still, they have worked well enough that
the business has gone from just me-myself-and I five years ago, to
six "official" employees, plus several work-at-home helpers.

The way I look at it, that's about eight families that my homemade
websites are helping to feed. I never aspired to be a business
owner. I consider myself fortunate to be in a position where I'm
able to write out handful of paychecks every week. And at the end of
the day, I'm happy with what my little do-it-yourself effort has
achieved.

Nancy Schettler

Favorite Fabrics / A Well Dressed Kitchen
www.favoritefabrics.com
www.awelldressedkitchen.com


-------- new post - same topic ---------

From: Mark Whitman
Subject: Small biz sites

> While small business owners (SBOs) may not all be web
> savvy designers or SEO gurus with the ability to create sites
> full of bells and whistles, thousands of us DO create successful
> websites that convert well and place well in the search
> engines. Plenty of well-documented proof of this exists.
        - Kerri Mackenzie, LED 2235

Well, I'm a bit of a rabble-rouser and this mailing list gets a
little boring sometimes so I injected a bunch of inflammatory stuff
in LED 2234 to shake things up a little.

I agree that some people who are not professional developers do put
together commercial websites that get the job done. What I left out
of my comments was that people such as those on this list aren't
really the people I was referring to. LEDers are making an effort to
learn the fine points of developing effective websites and I'm sure
some have eventually become successful at that - it's not really
rocket science, but it's also not intuitive. I've learned things
from this list too.

I never meant to imply however that "sites full of bells and
whistles" are necessary or even desirable, they typically stink. The
SBOs I was really referring to as having no chance of creating an
effective commercial website are those who grab an HTML editor and
make little or no effort to learn effective techniques for making
the site successful to the max. They often think that creating a
website is the same as creating a magazine ad or brochure - wrong! I
was referring more to high end strategies and techniques than
anything else, that's what the true pros bring to the table, and
that's what no SBO with no website development / marketing training
could possible achieve. If they could, what's the point of this
mailing list?

> I sincerely hope Mr. Whitman's client list doesn't
> contain any small business owners. They would
> likely not appreciate his opinion of them.

And I sincerely hope you continue to enjoy a nice income from your
site that has "plenty of room for improvement". Don't you think that
if you took some of the income from your site and invested in some
professional talent you'd likely increase your income many fold (I
do ;). BTW, although I don't accept new customers, I try to focus
more on personal projects, I have a core of ongoing repeat customers
all of whom are fairly small businesses who use me exclusively (I
know because I do their hosting :) and some even have employees who
subscribe to this list.

> I can tell you that Mark's attitude would not only
> result in an abrupt termination of any sales call
> he made on us, but a warning to anyone else
> to avoid him like the plague.
        - Tracy Coyle, LED 2235

Wanna bet? That's not a question, that's my pitch. I rarely go out
looking for work anymore but when I do I do it on a 100% performance
basis. There was a time when offering services on a performance
basis was more common on the net. Too bad it's not as common anymore
because it sure separates the good, the bad and the ugly.

If I were to buy any form of 'net marketing services, including SEO,
I would only do so on a performance basis and that's the only way I
offer services. I find a site I know is weak and bet the owner I
will double either targeted traffic, conversion or both within a
given time frame or they owe me nothing, even if I hit only 99%
increase. I charge a hefty price for that but I have never lost one
of those bets.

You'd avoid an offer like that like the plague? Whatever. I'd like
to see all people who buy 'net marketing services more insistent on
performance based payment. Hold your provider accountable. The good
one's will come through and the others will go away.

M.Whitman


-------- new post - new topic --------

From: Stephen Mareches
Subject: Hidden frames

> Instead of the hidden frame, ask them to
> set up a sub-domain for you.
        - Brad Waller, LED 2230

Brad,

We did some digging around regarding sub-domains, also known as
vanity domains. From what I've read these little guys don't tend to
do well in Search Engine Rankings as some search engines tend to
ignore them.

So this may not really solve the indexing problem. If you have
further information, that would be enlightening.

Glad this point was brought up; we're working on a community forum
project for Metro Atlanta and were thinking of using a framed page
on the parent site to display the contents of the forum as it most
likely will reside on a different server. I did wonder if search
engines would index the forum's content and now from what I've read
here on LED, that doesn't appear to be a good option.

Stephen Mareches

Sophia Solutions
www.sophiasolutions.net


==== BILLBOARD ===================================

From: John "Zeke" Brumage
Subject: Terminology

> ... what do each of these numbers actually
> indicate: Hits, Files, Pages, Visits, Sites, KBytes.
        - Ray Hadorn, LED 2235

A hit is a file request from your web server. A page with 5 images
on it would generate 6 hits -- 1 hit for the HTML and another 5 for
the images.

A FILE is usually considered a hit resulting in the transfer of a
file.

A PAGE is just that, an HTML page.

A VISIT is the downloading of one or more files by a single IP
address within a certain amount of time.

A SITE is the IP address where one or more VISITS originated; a site
might also be called a UNIQUE visitor.

A KBYTE (KILOBYTE) is the transfer from the website  of 1024 BYTES
(which are 8 BITS long,) of data. Most web hosting contracts specify
a cap on the total transfer each month, generally stated as
MEGABYTES (1,048,576 bytes) a thousand Kbytes, or GIGABYTES, a
million KILOBYTES.

A REFERRER is a web page where a visitor clicked a link to get to
the present element. I have found studying this helps in determining
where to advertise or request links.

The PATH is a list of pages viewed in a visit.

ENTRY PAGE the first page a visitor finds

EXIT PAGE the last page a visitor downloads

Most log analyzers attempt to compute other numbers such as the
average time per page, and generally pull out details about the
search engines and search terms.

John Brumage
Results 1 - 10 of about 19,500 for disco legend zeke


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