| LED Digest 1952: Server Location & Customer Support |
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March 30, 2005 Issue #1952 .............................................. .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ======= NEW ===================== --== Should I Worry? ==-- ~ James Miller "...some spammer is using daisy.co.uk to send masses of spam to millions of people." ==== CONTINUING ================= --== How Important is Server Location? ==-- ~ Christiane Vir "...access to telephone or e-mail help is much quicker in Canada than in the US." ~ Trevor Johnson "A .co.uk domain name will be taken more seriously by google.co.uk..." --== Blogging ==-- ~ Pat McCarthy "Blogs [are] growing in importance and scope." --== RSS ==-- ~ Tom Aman "The reader was Active Web Reader..." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== To Bounce or not To Bounce ==-- ~ Simon McArdle ~ John Brumage --== MSN Search ==-- ~ Nancy Schettler ======= NEW ====================================== From: James Miller Subject: Should I Worry? My main email address is "james, daisy.co.uk" and I use a few others as well. I have a spam challenge system on all the other possible e-mails for daisy to stop spam. Unfortunately, some spammer is using daisy.co.uk to send masses and masses of spam to millions of people. So I get lots of annoying bounces. Typically several thousand a day. At present I just dump anything that doesn't come to a valid e-mail address. My worry is that someone will report daisy.co.uk as a spammer and I'll have to go to all the trouble to change my e-mail address to something else. Strangely, of the six of seven domains that I use, daisy.co.uk is the only one that has a problem. James Miller Daisy Analysis: www.daisy.co.uk ===== CONTINUING ================================= From: Christiane Vir Subject: Server location > We use a UK based dedicated server and I wonder if I would > benefit from the cheaper [server hosting] deals available in the > US. Now I have heard all sorts of opinions regarding location > of servers and wonder which are urban legends and which > are real considerations. - Richard Stubbings, LED 1951 From my experience, I've started with a Canadian company; when the prices in the US really decreased, I changed to a US server and a bit more than a year ago, I changed back to a Canadian company mainly because the prices have gone down here, also. Up to now, I found that when there are problems, access to telephone or e-mail help is much quicker in Canada than in the US. Also, you don't have to worry about time difference and for me, I don't have to worry about the exchange rates. I like to pay one year at a time. I would say that if the price is getting really too cheap, it means than cutting down on either service or reliability. Christiane Vir http://www.cgstv.com/index.html c-g, cyberus.com ------- new post - same topic -------- From: Trevor Johnson Subject: Server location Richard Stubbings in LED #1951 asks whether several commonly expressed opinions about the geographical location of web servers were valid: > It is better to have a UK located machine for UK > site as the majority of your customers are UK > based and will have quicker access to your site. True, but inconsequential. The speed difference will be in the vicinity of 40 milliseconds. Your visitors are not THAT rushed for time. Often, that difference is less than that of an older, slower local server compared to a newer, faster offshore server anyway. > It is better to have a UK location because a UK > IP address will improve your rankings on Google.co.uk Untrue. Having owned and managed numerous domains on different themes on servers in Australia, the UK and the USA, and even moving sites hosting servers from one country to another, there has absolutely never been any impact, good or bad, on search engine rankings. Too often, the "little guy" forgets that we are operating on the WORLD Wide Web - not the UK-W-W or the USA-W-W. Search engines fully understand that competition in the web hosting business is an internationally cut-throat game and that cyberspace has no geographical boundaries. Having said that, what certainly can and does affect country-specific search results will be your choice of domain name extension, rather than the IP number at which it is hosted. A .co.uk domain name will be taken more seriously by google.co.uk than it will be in google.com.au, for example. > It is better to have a UK location as your support > will work the same hours as you Depends on your choice of either a cheapo host or a quality provider that provides 24/7 support. It's not a question of geography. It's a question of service standard of your host. If you choose a cheapo host in your own country, don't make the quantum leap of thinking that you'll get quality service even during office hours. Trevor Johnson Weight Loss, Dieting & Obesity http://www.dietwords.com ------- new post - new topic -------- From: Pat McCarthy Subject: Blogging > God forbid if an analogy could be made between rap and > blogging. The rap that I've heard is unconscionably rude, > crude, and degrading. - Marsha Kopan, LED 1949 While a lot of rap is rude and crude, it's a bit of a generalization. That's like saying all blogging is poorly done by amateurs. While the majority of it is true, there are many fantastic blogs out there, just as there is good rap music that isn't crude and rude. > As to blogging...if one is building their business, who has > the time? And, who reads that stuff anyways? IMHO it will > go the way of banner ads, pop ups and other idea of the > month plans. As far as who has the time, it's a measure of allocating time. For one person's business, it might be more beneficial to spend their time buying advertising. For another person's business, blogging may be the best activity for them, or at least an activity that IS worth the time. As for who reads it, I'm quite busy, and I read a few blogs that teach me a great deal while keeping me informed. They are definitely helpful in my continual education as a person. You for example obviously find reading this list worthwhile of your time, so you can't be so busy that you aren't reading anything. Perhaps you just haven't found any blogs worth your time. I'll have to disagree with your opinion that blogs are going the way of banner ads and pop ups. First of all, banners and pop ups aren't exactly "ideas of the month". While obviously many people don't like banners ads and pop ups, they've been around for years, and they haven't gone away as you seem to think they may have. There are probably more banner ads being shown today than ever before actually. Pop ups are getting blocked more and more...so that's a different story. Blogs however aren't going the way of the "idea of the month" either, as they're growing in importance and scope. Instead of generalizing, I'd suggest keeping an open mind about technologies and seeing where they can go instead of just closing them off. Pat McCarthy Right Media http://www.rightmedia.com/ ------- new post - new topic -------- From: Tom Aman Subject: RSS > ... the reader I have been testing will let me > import my IE favorites and at the click of one > button, check them all for updates - Tom Aman, LED 1941 > Would you share which reader that was? - Kathryn Martyn, LED 1950 The reader was Active Web Reader, a free web feed reader (aggregator) that supports RSS (feed format) 0.9x, 1.x and 2.x from Deskshare. It can be found at: http://www.deskshare.com/awr.aspx Tom Aman http://www.cyberspyder.com ==== BILLBOARD =================================== From: Simon McArdle Subject: Bouncing > I wonder if bouncing actually confirms the [email] and > brings more spam or if it's a complete waste of time > because the spammers have shut down those addresses. - Fred Cherney, LED 1951 Bouncing emails back to spammers is a complete waste of time. Spammers forge resend and return addresses so all you are doing is adding to the already cluttered spam traffic on the net. The bounce must be delivered somewhere and that somewhere is usually an innocent ISP that has nothing at all to do with it. This has been debated actually in the Mailwasher forums and the overwhelming response is as I just listed above. This is a sales gimmick for Mailwasher and a very irresponsible one too. It relies on people with little knowledge thinking that they can do something to stop spammers by bouncing the emails. This is what is generally referred to as "imagine ware". It is a useless feature the program makers want you to believe you should not be without. Regards, Simon McArdle The Logo Company http://thelogocompany.net ------- new post - same topic -------- From: John Brumage Subject: Bouncing Modern spam is sent with false sender addresses, so bouncing is probably just a waste of bandwidth. We use an outside service, Postini, to filter email before it reaches our POP3 server.. This saves bandwidth and server load, as well as saving wasted connection time for our customers as they download. Several companies, including my company, 1-us.com, sell email boxes complete with upstream spam filters, so even though a company is too small to purchase upstream filtering directly from the provider, the benefits are available to users as small as a single Email POP3 box. John Brumage http://destination-fun.com john, brumage.com ------- new post - new topic -------- From: Nancy Schettler Subject: How to get included in the new MSN search I hate to ask what seems like such a stupid question, but... how do you get a site into the new MSN index? I have two sites, awelldressedkitchen.com and favoritefabrics.com , both of which were included in MSN's "old" index last year. I've submitted both to the new (formerly BETA) search, and awelldressedkitchen.com made it in (probably on its own), but favoritefabrics.com has not. I've read all of MSN's site submission pages, and have resubmitted every week or two. Apparently there are seven links pointing to the site, so MSN should be able to find it, but... no results. I keep the content of the home page fresh by updating it every couple of days or so; Google and Yahoo both crawl it regularly. The site has been around for well over a year, so it's not new. I was wondering if any of the LED readers might be able to shed light on this. Or if anyone else has encountered the same situation, it sure would be nice not to feel so alone! Gratefully, Nancy Schettler www.favoritefabrics.com ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains Copyright 1995-2005 Orange Wheel, LLC. 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