| LED Digest 2110: Cell Phone Visitors |
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================================================== The LED Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective Online Advertising, Since 1997" pair Networks: The LED's Web Host Hosting and Domain Reg. from a Trusted Leader pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains ================================================== List Moderator: Published by: Adam Audette LED Digest adam, led-digest.com http://www.led-digest.com .............................................. March 6, 2006 Issue #2110 .............................................. .....IN THIS DIGEST..... ==== CONTINUING ================= --== Cell Phone Visitors ==-- ~ Martha Retallick "There is a move afoot...to make sites work in cell phones." ~ Andreas Huttenrauch "...ALL sites should be friendly to these devices." --== Drop-Down Menus & Search Engines ==-- ~ Sean Carlos "There is a javascript solution which will help old IE versions emulate proper CSS support..." ==== BILLBOARD =================== --== Design Contracts? [was: Web Rates] ==-- ~ Nancy Cardinali --== Fighting Spam ==-- ~ Vicki Lambert --== The LED Archives ==-- ~ Michael Martinez ======== CONTINUING =============================== From: Martha Retallick Subject: Cell phones > Does anyone bother to make an ecommerce > site friendly to cell phones? Other than sites > selling ring tones, etc. Is this worthwhile? - John Barendrecht, LED 2109 In response to John Barendrecht's post about making websites cell-phone friendly, I would like to say... There is a move afoot among those of us who (try to) adhere to Web Standards to make sites work in cell phones. That being said, accessing the Web via cell phone is slow. And I'm talking slow enough for you to wish you had that 14.4 modem that your computer connected to the Internet with back in 1995. But that's how things are now. Cellular telephony, like Internet connections, will likely undergo dramatic changes in the next decade. So, word to the wise: Start working on making your website designs work in devices that aren't computers, because that's where things are headed. Martha Retallick Western Sky Communications Web/Graphic Design & Consulting http://www.WesternSkyCommunications.com --------- new post - same topic -------- From: Andreas Huttenrauch Subject: Cell phones As far as cell phones and PDAs are concerned, ALL sites should be friendly to these devices. IMHO I don't think the masses would make a purchase on a mobile device, but they definitely make purchasing decisions. If you sell products, the details should at least be visible so that a mobile person can decide to buy your product over the competitors', and make a "todo" to buy it later from a PC. For the service industry, at the very least you should show contact information, so that mobile people can find you and then call you or email you. Andreas Huttenrauch Globi Web Solutions http://www.globi.ca --------- new post - new topic -------- From: Sean Carlos Subject: Drop-downs I have used CSS styled lists to create drop down menus for my site - both to reduce page bloat and to facilitate search engine crawling. Modern browsers (Firefox, Opera, Safari, Mozilla etc) do not require JavaScript to make this work. There is a JavaScript solution which will help old IE versions emulate proper CSS support - the trick is to serve this file only if your site visitor is using an obsolete browser. While CSS support is still behind the competition in IE 7 (where's all that innovation?), CSS only drop down menus do work fairly well in IE 7. A more extensive write-up is available on my site: http://www.antezeta.com/search-engine-friendly-menus-css.html For those already stuck with JavaScript only navigation systems, you should definitely consider Google's Sitemaps program in the short term; Yahoo has a very primitive, one-time option: http://submit.search.yahoo.com/free/request I'm not aware of MSN or ASK solutions, yet. Sean Carlos Antezeta, Milan www.antezeta.com ==== BILLBOARD =================================== From: Nancy Cardinali Subject: Design Contracts (was Web rates) Hi all, We are having a nice discussion about web design / maintenance rates. How about some pointers on a contract before the work starts? Anyone have a basic contract they would share? Thanks Nancy Cardinali nancy52,cwo.com -------- new post - new topic -------- From: Vicki M. Lambert Subject: Fighting spam > I think it's great that Tom Aman has found > the unsubscribe approach to work so well... > However, it simply wouldn't work for me. - Tom Anson, LED 2108 I too was impressed with his ability to get rid of spam so I thought I will try it. I am a little too popular with over 200 spams a day on a good day, and don't even think about Mondays. Sometimes 500-600 have come in over the weekend. So yesterday I checked as they came rolling in. Maybe one in 10 had an unsubscribe feature. One had something I had never seen before as well. When I clicked unsubscribe at the bottom of the page it took me to the website where it tried to sell me something and convince me how great it was to be on their subscriber list (which I never signed up for and have never visited their site before). After two more clicks it did give me the unsubscribe message but I am wondering what goodies those extra clicks will bring in the future. Vicki Lambert -------- new post - new topic -------- From: Michael Martinez Subject: LED archives > What I'm curious to know is if anyone can identify > one of those pages as a backlink using the link: > command. They can't contribute to your link pop > or PageRank if they're not recognized as a backlink, no? - Steve Pronger, LED 2109 I thought I had seen where you yourself acknowledged that Google's "link:" command only produces a random sampling of their backlinks. It's widely documented that you cannot check Google's backlink data with any degree of accuracy with that command. But the archive pages are indeed "search engine friendly" to the extent that they are crawlable and that many URLs are converted to hypertext links. The original discussions are not optimized for search indexing and, frankly, I don't want them to be. > Randomly devaluing links? I don't think so. > Evidence please. Google is NOT randomly devaluing links. When I said, "It's a total roll of the dice", I was referring to the unknowable quality of links based on PR with respect to SEO. That is, anyone who goes out and solicits links on the basis of PR values has no way of knowing if they'll get good links. PR is not an indicator of value or quality. At least not for anyone who is serious about SEO. Michael Martinez http://www.michael-martinez.com/ ------------------------------------------------------- The LED Digest is sponsored by pair Networks: pair.com for Hosting | pairNIC.com for Domains © Copyright 1995-2006 Orange Wheel, LLC. All Rights Reserved. "Life doesn't make any sense, and we all pretend it does. Comedy's job is to point out that it doesn't make sense, and that it doesn't make much difference anyway." - Eric Idle |
